What information re. Birth cert in 1799?

[MadaboutRoses1883]

I cannot seem to get back before my 4x gr grandfather, born 1799 in Ribchester Lancashire. I think I have determined his parents marriage in Ribchester, but I need t be sure, hence I am wondering what information I could glean from sending for 4x gr grandfather's birth certificate?
Would both his parents names and their address or place of origins be on it?

I ask because I cannot find his father's birth in Ribchester, and I am now thinking he may be from somewhere else? Would that information be on the birth certificate?
Nothing seems to fit from LancashireOPC or Familysearch .org

Cheers Rosie

[rosie99]

You will not get a birth certificate prior to 1837.

Who is it you are looking for

[MadaboutRoses1883]

Thankyou for your reply Rosie99.
Ah, that's a shame, how are we supposed to go forward, or in this case backward?
I am looking for a William Gorner (variations of Gornall) his wife is Ellen. Their son is Abraham Gorner(Gornall) born 1799 in Ribchester.
Rosie

[KGarrad]

You need Parish Registers   Try www.lan-opc.org.uk

Banns: St Wilfrid, Ribchester, Lancashire, England
William Gorner - Parish of Ribchester and County of Lancaster
Ellen Ogden - Spinster, Parish and County aforesaid
    First Reading: 30 Oct 1791
    Second Reading: 6 Nov 1791
    Third Reading: 13 Nov 1791; Read By: I. Relph Curate
    Register: Banns 1783 - 1792, Page 24, Entry 123
    Source: LDS Film 1470814

Marriage: 14 Nov 1791 St Wilfrid, Ribchester, Lancashire, England
Junior William Gorner - (X), Weaver, Parish of Ribchester and County of Lancaster
Ellen Ogden - (X), Spinster, the Parish and County aforesaid
    Witness: John Walton; Thomas Clayton
    Married by Banns by: Isaac Relph Curate
    Register: Marriages 1783 - 1792, Page 49, Entry 147
    Source: LDS Film 1470814

[MadaboutRoses1883]

Thankyou KGarrard,  That's who I think is his parents. But how would I know for sure? I cannot find a William, born in Ribchester that fits the timeline, so I am thinking he came from elsewhere?
Also I noticed it says, Junior William Gorner, so can I take it his father was also a William Gorner?

[KGarrad]

Same website, different search, gives:

Baptism: 9 Nov 1799 St Peter and St Paul, Ribchester, Lancashire, England
Abraham Gorner - filius Gulmi Gorner & Ellenae
    Godparents: Ricardus Rishton; Jana Goring
    Register: Baptisms 1783 - 1805, Page 29, Entry 1
    Source: Original register at Lancashire Archives


St Peter & St Paul was a Roman Catholic church - hence the names in Latin.

There is information about the church here:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Ribchester/StPeterandStPaul

Scroll down for info re the Parish Registers.

[rosie99]

Having junior I would say his father was also William.
 
You can never be 100% sure but generally following back in the same parish you are reasonably safe.
The problem comes when first names are repeated down the line & siblings are all calling their children after their parents.