Frank Yeoman ELLERY NZ Family

[Lucy2]

 Robert GRINTER   :    Continued >

Some electoral listings :

1880-81 - Thames - Robert GRINTER - publican - Albert Street (Residential qualification)

1890 - Waikato - Te Aroha - occ:  miner

1896 - Waikato - Ohinemuri - at Waihi, occ:  Miner

1900 - Thames - at Tararu, Old Men's Home, Inmate

1905-06 - same,  but listed as "Robert (O.M.)" - no surname.  [O.M. probably relates to his address at Old Men's home ? ]

NZ Death Index

1908 / 9084 - GRINTER - Robert - 69 * years  [bc 1839 ]

And I have this burial scribbled down (but can't immediately find where I sourced the info from ? )

Burial - Tararu Cemetery, Thames

# 684 - GRINTER - Robert - buried 13 April 1908 - aged 64 *years [bc 1844 ]
(Religion) Epis. (Episcopalian) - born ENGLAND
Ref:  P. 278
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He doesn't appear to have left a Will  and I can't recall seeing a death notice for him either.

As for his most likely year of birth, I'd go for 1841 (was 19 years when he came to NZ 1860).
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Because there were several boys named Robert GRINTER born at Dorset about the same time, it has taken quite a time to weed through them.     Hopefully I've come up now with the correct one - will post details a little later.

   ~  Lu                                                                        continues next  >>

[Lucy2]

Robert GRINTER :

In another advertisement > 1875 I think >  (and I've misplaced the link to it - will find later) - under the heading of "El Dorado Mining Co." the following shareholders and their places of abode etc., are listed >

William LARKIN* - Shortland - miner - 1000 shares

Robert GRINTER - Shortland - miner - 1000 shares

*  It seems that Robert GRINTER was well acquainted with a man named William LARKIN (or LARKINS) and this is possibly where the name of his son came from ?

Here's the link to actual advertisement (should have read as "Eldorado" - one word  )

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/THS18750630.2.18.2

Seems this was a short-lived venture - the company looked to have been be taken over by others within a few months, and by end of 1875 had been bought-out by a single shareholder.

    ~   Lu

[shirleymcgahan]

Hi, I have William Larkins ELLERY in my family tree also.  Our line is down through William James ELLERY. I'm happy to share info from NZ

[bernice52]

Hi Shirley
Thanks, as I  think Franks relatives were out of touch?

[bernice52]

Birth printout for William Larkin Grinter's  mother Fanny or Jenny? Baker age 24 born Corromandel.
checking NZ BDM  there are no Fanny (Florence/Frances) or  Jenny /Jane but a Janet Baker was born 1855 to Martha Maria (nee Vercoe) & Charles Baker married 1852 she seems to be their only NZ child and  Janet  variants are Jane Jenny & Jessie

[Lucy2]

Hi Bernice

Well, at least the mother's maiden name is BAKER.   

I would say that the forename is meant to be Jenny  ... though it looks rather like "Janny".    First letter is definitely a " J ".

But other details - "born Coromandel"  /  age 24 - bc 1854 / also stack up for this being Jane BAKER (ELLERY / RAMSAY).   

*  Can you give me details of the Father (Robert) please ... and who registered the birth ?

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

....   checking NZ BDM  there are no Fanny (Florence/Frances) or  Jenny /Jane but a Janet Baker was born 1855 to Martha Maria (nee Vercoe) & Charles Baker married 1852 she seems to be their only NZ child and  Janet  variants are Jane Jenny & Jessie

Mmm .... but Martha Maria VERCOE and Charles BAKER married in New Zealand.

I thought Jane's obituary said that her parents came from England on the "Westminster" c. 1841 ?
So one might presume that they were already married at that time ??

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi Bernice

There are quite a number of "trees" at ancestry re:  Charles BAKER (1821-1917) and Martha Maria VERCOE (1833- 1915) - said to have married 1852 in Taranaki.

None of those I've looked at make a lot of sense to me - because they only name two daughters of the couple > Annie , born at Sydney 1854 and Janet, born NZ 1855.  That's it ... they don't tell who the daughters married etc.       ...   so it's puzzling why the parents' names even feature in the "trees".        

Martha was apparently born about 1833 ... so it's really not possible for her to have been the  parent of Jane (- whose parents were said to have arrived in NZ per "Westminster" c. 1841. )
[Think I also mentioned earlier that I could not find BAKER listed on that voyage to NZ. ]

*   I think you are going to need the 1882  NZ Marriage printout for Jane BAKER - James ELLERY, to learn who exactly Jane's parents were.   

   ~  Lu

[minniehaha]

Part quote from reply # 68....

"I would say that the forename is meant to be Jenny  ... though it looks rather like "Janny".    First letter is definitely a " J "."

I think "Fanny" should be considered as a possibility.


Minniehaha.