John O'Burney Kelly

[Jamjar]

Freemans Journal 1 Jan 1914
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/111293165?
...obit for Hubert Hugh KELLY.....

Not the right one. Looking for one who died 1915.

This is the one in the article though: 

50/1914 Hubert H Kelly parents JOHN and LOUISA SYDNEY

[tigerprawn]

At this point I am fairly sure that John O'Burney Kelly is my 3x GGF. My GGM was Clarice Edna Kelly, whose father I thought was Herbert Hercules but seems to be spelt Hubert instead, who was married to Mary Anne Matilda Rose Betts.

With this info about Hubert's birth and death I've found his marriage to Mary Betts and the registration of Clarice's birth.

Thanks for all this help, it's so much more than I've had in a long time.

[Jamjar]

At this point I am fairly sure that John O'Burney Kelly is my 3x GGF. My GGM was Clarice Edna Kelly, whose father I thought was Herbert Hercules but seems to be spelt Hubert instead, who was married to Mary Anne Matilda Rose Betts.

With this info about Hubert's birth and death I've found his marriage to Mary Betts and the registration of Clarice's birth.

Thanks for all this help, it's so much more than I've had in a long time.

Siblings of Clarice:

24034/1906 Kelly Doris B S parents HUBERT H and MARY A M R GOULBURN

31457/1907 Allan H parents HUBERT H and MARY A M R SYDNEY

48159/1914 Gladys M HUBERT H and MARY A GOULBURN

J.

[Jamjar]

If this is the death notice of Catherine it has her age as 80 in 1894, thus a birth year of 1814, 2nd column:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article98516440

J.

[Jamjar]

Found some deaths:

15581/1912 Margaret KELLY parents John O and Catherine M GOULBURN

15447/1931 Crosbie B Kelly parents JOHN O B and KATHERINE M MANLY

Inquest for John Kelly with son Crosbie giving evidence, in 1867, second column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article100872823

I can't see birth for Crosbie in NSW.

Think I have him: 

5044/1867 John O Kelly parents PATRICK O and BRIDGET GOULBURN


Death notice for Crosbie Kelly: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article28041869
Probate notice for Crosbie Baynes Kelly, 5th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16820232

Crosbie buried at Manly Cemetery:

Crosbie Baynes Kelly S.362 15-7-1931 age 84 MD33


The Obit for Margaret in 1912, does not mention Hubert as a brother and he died in 1915, 2nd column.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article102117873


With Hubert being born in 1867, could he be the illegitimate son of Margaret or Kate?


Jamjar

[Jamjar]

This death notice has Catherine aged 88, mother of Crosby and a Mrs Southall as Catherine Mary Gillard, 4th column:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15676296

10191/1916 Catherine GILLARD father George, no mother named SYDNEY

Her marriage: 577/1878 Catherine KELLY to William GILLARD SYDNEY

The mentioned daughter's death:

10674/1928 Kate SOUTHALL father John O and mother Katherine SYDNEY

Death notice: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16479386

Jamjar

Added: Marriage in U.K.:

September Quarter 1846
Leeds 23 330
Kelly John O'Beirne and Catherine Mary Smith

Birth:

KELLY, CROSBY  SMITH     mmn SMITH
1847  S Quarter in LEEDS  Volume 23  Page 448

Possible daughter: KELLY, ANN  mmn SMITH 
1849  S Quarter in LEEDS  Volume 23  Page 432   

A possible 1841 census for Catherine with birth year 1828 and father George: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQPD-7H8