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Offline Megan Hodges

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Re: WILLIAM BENNETT - Convict or not?
« Reply #27 on: Monday 03 July 17 01:35 BST (UK) »
I have been able to check the marriage of William & Harriet and there is definitely no mention of his parents names.
Yes, George Bennett did in fact marry Alice Durkin I now have a copy, bad though it is of their marriage cert.  Also a copy of her death certificate.

James Bennett's wifes name was Mary Daly,

Thank you for all your assistance, I am still following up bits and pieces between looking after my grandson.
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Re: WILLIAM BENNETT - Convict or not?
« Reply #28 on: Monday 03 July 17 02:19 BST (UK) »
I have been able to check the marriage of William & Harriet and there is definitely no mention of his parents names....

Earlier in the thread you mention that the document includes reconciliation with one of the church registers.  Have you searched for the original and confirmed that there was only one register in use at that time?   If it was a Church of England marriage, then it was usual practice for two parish registers to record the marriage, and for these to be kept separate from each other.   The NSW BDM's reconciliation project has not ever been completed. 

May I again ask for you to type up the information that is on the document, as I am happy to help offline with seeking to obtain the information the groom provided to the clergyman when being interviewed prior to the marriage.

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Re: WILLIAM BENNETT - Convict or not?
« Reply #29 on: Friday 07 July 17 08:07 BST (UK) »
Hi JM, sorry for delay in replying, the details as appear on marriage certificate are as follows:
Date & place: May 26th 1856, St Peters Cooks River Road. Names and Surnames: William Bennett
Harriett Manser; Bachelor and Spinster: Birthplace  ______ England in both instances; Usual occupation: Labourer & Servant; Age 35 & 21 Usual residence: Georges River for both; Fathers Name and Mothers Name (left blank for Wm and Stephen Manser and Dorothy Ransom for Harriett.  Father's occupation Labourer for both.
The marriage solemised between us William Bennett his x mark and Harriett Manser her x mark. In the presence of us Thomas Sanders and Hanah Flint.
According to the rites of the Church of England By me Thomas Steele LLD

Birthplace/Age/Parent details were obtained from Church register 54.

I Also had a look on Ancestry and found another copy of the marriage again with William's parents names missing.

I did get in touch with St Peters who let me know of the Ancestry copy.
Nothing else forthcoming.

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Re: WILLIAM BENNETT - Convict or not?
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 08 July 17 05:43 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

I am attaching a snip from the 1856 parish register.  You will notice that the clergy did record the information that the groom provided about both his own parents, and that part of the details are still there on the remaining part of the actual page which has sustained damage.   The image is extremely difficult to read, so too are other images on pages before and after that one due to that damage.   

If this were my family I would continue the conversation with St Peters and gently ask them if they can confirm that the Rev'd did follow church rules re keeping two registers concurrently, and if so, can they check for the location of the 'other' one.  Both registers meant to be kept separately from each other, and both meant to be kept secure, and away from fire etc.    It seems to me that it is highly unlikely that the 'other' register would have sustained the same damage to the same  records, and so depending on how determined you are to obtain the names of both parents, and how patient you are, I think you are quite close to solving it.   Sydney Diocese may well be the custodians of St Peters registers.   

PS, for example, a clergyman may keep one register within the church building's secure room and the other in the fireproof safe in the manse - so they are in two separate locations.     

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Re: WILLIAM BENNETT - Convict or not?
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 08 July 17 05:45 BST (UK) »
Here's the headings from the top of the right hand page of that parish register.

Confirms that the writing in those columns is for details about their parents, including mother's maiden name ... vital family history info  :) of course.

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Re: WILLIAM BENNETT - Convict or not?
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 08 July 17 06:44 BST (UK) »
Camperdown Cemetery, Common Interment
24 Nov 1851 burial
William MANSER of Balmain, died 22 November 1851 aged 2 years. 
Cause of death : Natural causes. 

 :'(


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Re: WILLIAM BENNETT - Convict or not?
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 08 July 17 08:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks JM
I have just fired off another email to St Peter's church hopefully they will be able to shed more light on the subject. 

I wonder if the infant William was Stephen's or his brother Thomas's.

Megan
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Bennett - Surrey; Kent; Essex; NSW
Fenwick - Scotland
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