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Re: 1871 census look up request
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 06:55 BST (UK) »
The marriage was at St John Notting Hill, license issued 5 March 1853, marriage was on the 15th, he was a widower, father Fidele am an de Hersant gentleman.
Bride was Frances Ann Tomlin father Edmund Tomlin, gentleman. witness William Tomlin and Marion Tomlin.

1851 census Walcot Somerset he is a visitor with Richard Collard 35 born Bath Somerset and wife Frances 40 born France
Just listed as De Hersant age 45 widower (no Christian name listed) born France.

Alien Arrivals on ancestry
5 August 1836 Dover
10 February 1837 Ramsgate
11 February 1838 Southampton as Jean Fidele Bihersande with de Hersant written below in brackets
8 May 1843 Dover
11 July 1843 Dover

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Re: 1871 census look up request
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 07:33 BST (UK) »
Under Peerage of the British Empire-- Baron Cremone, Ireland.
Issue of Richard Dawson nephew of the 1st Peer, and aunts of the present peer (inherited 1827)
Penelope Catherine died December 1837 having married Monsieur Jean Fidele de Hersant.
Anna Marie
Eliza widow of Simon- Bunbury Isaac Esquire
Louisa married 30 October 1810 Charles Coote of Bellamont Forest.

So Henry's fathers first wife was Penelope Catherine Dawson

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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 08:42 BST (UK) »
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.         In April 1850 Frances Mary Buss opened the North London Collegiate School for Ladies at 46 (later renumbered 12) Camden Street. Camden Town was then a professional neighbourhood near both Hampstead and the City, and 35 daughters of gentlemen and 'the most respectable' tradesmen assembled on the opening day. The Vicar of St. Pancras, Canon Thomas Dale, who already had a similar school for boys in his parish, lent his Interest and support                       
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Which fits in with where they were living in 1871.
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 08:49 BST (UK) »
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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 17:06 BST (UK) »
Hi,
thank you so much for all the wonderful info,and all from so little info from me.Very impressed!I couldn't get anywhere with it :'(.
Many thanks
Trisha ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 22:49 BST (UK) »
Quote from: TrishaG on Tuesday 20 June 17 17:06 BST (UK)
Hi,
thank you so much for all the wonderful info,and all from so little info from me.Very impressed!I couldn't get anywhere with it :'(.
Many thanks
Trisha ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: TrishaG on Monday 19 June 17 23:14 BST (UK)
Hi,
I hope someone can help with this query.
I'm sorry it's vague as the only info I've got is the info on the flyleaf of a book I've inherited.
I'm looking for a H.C de Hersant-sex unknown,but he or she is of school age.
The book in question was a prize for punctuality in the midsummer of 1872 at the North London Collegiate School(I don't think it's the famous girls school as it has a headmasters name ,Chas.Wm. Williams DD.F.R.A.S. inscribed at the bottom of the page and not that of the girls school Headmistress of the time, Frances Buss).
If anyone can give me the slightest info on Mr or Miss de Hersant I'ld be very grateful.
Many thanks,
Trisha. :) :) :)
Hi Trisha, did find Jean Fidel Hersant's birth in Orleans, he was born on 11/06/1800,
his father was Armand, Fidel Hersant, he lived, Rue David Gabaud nr 1bis in Orleans, his mother was Marie Madeleine Therese Brochon, Jean Fidel was born at 5.00PM, did find also his brother, Armand, Fidel Hersant born on 5/11/1797 and a sister named Marie Madeleine born on 25/03/1802
it sounds like he had two other brothers, do check and come back to you tomorrow.
bye for now
Didier

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Re: 1871 census look up request
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 21 June 17 06:02 BST (UK) »
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The first marriage of Jean Fidele de Hersant was 1823 at St Mary Northgate Kent possible by license
Archbishop of Canterbury.
I don't have a subscription so cannot see the date and witnesses.
Or perhaps someone has access to the register of St Mary Northgate to get the details

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Also on Findmy past
Penelope was buried 1837 St Andrew Plymouth Devon
Also dated 1838 there is information in the Tipperary Clans Archive in Ireland

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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 21 June 17 06:34 BST (UK) »
Katherine born 1857 daughter of Jean and Frances died 1938 Basford Nottinghamshire.
She never married.

1911 Katherine 54 and her sister Marie 55 are boarders with William Colenhoun a Physician at 1 Upper Bedford Place London. (both of private means)

1901 census they are at Bingham Road, Radcliffe on Trent Nottinghamshire, Marie 46, Katherine 44

Added 1891 the entire family transcribed as Hercart are at 10 Belgrave Square, Sherwood Nottinghamshire.
son Henry Charles is 32 and listed as a widower and a Lace manufacterer

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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 21 June 17 06:41 BST (UK) »
Katherine left a will, died 1 September 1938 of 14 Marlborough Road Woodthorpe, Nottinghamshire, spinster. probate to Henry Charles De Hersant of no occupation and Ivon Henry De Hersant commission agent. she left over 8000.00 pounds

Marie died 1933 Nottinghamshire, never married

Marie also left a will, she died 18 December 1933 at Coppice Hospital Nottinghamshire, probate to brother Henry C de Hersant, she had over 13000.00 pounds

Ivon Henry is a son of Henry Charles, his WW1 papers are on ancestry as is all above information
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