owen rowlands to catherine marriage

[ANGIE81]

Hi all I've been reading over all the info you have sent me and joined ancestry again as well as find my past and for the life of me i cant find the census on them sites. where did you find the info? much appreciated x

[keyboard86]

Hi again give me an example of which census you have tried to locate which family, the Rowland/s or Davies?
Keyboard86

[ANGIE81]

The one's which have been posted in this chat the 1841 rowlands after owen rowland passed away and the later ones where eliz is widowed.

[ANGIE81]

Have you Thomas Davies 27 b Liverpool in 1851, as I have occ Mariner with a father Thomas ( as marriage) in Pwllheli, Caernarvonshire are these his parents? 
Census ref HO107/2574/240/7

Also the above where did you find the info? And how do I use the census ref?  xx

[keyboard86]

The one's which have been posted in this chat the 1841 rowlands after owen rowland passed away and the later ones where eliz is widowed.

I can assist, but please tell me where the family of Thomas & Elizabeth were after 1881?
Keyboard86

PS I use mainly FindMyPast for census searches, re census refs go into relevant census year and scroll down until you see PIECE FOLIO PAGE , and put in the numbers I have given.

[ANGIE81]

everton lancashire after 1881

[keyboard86]

everton lancashire after 1881

I think I knew that, just show me a census in 1891 with one of them on, I am not perfect but could not locate with any confidence??
Keyboard86

Try the census ref tip, slightly different for the 1841 census

[ANGIE81]

RG 12/2955 thats John owen davies, thomas's son on 1891 census. I have no further than 1881 on thomas's also no death record for him x

[keyboard86]

Wondered if "Tregaen" was an attempt to capture "Tregaian " (Llangefni)?

Hi looking at the possible baptsms of Elizabeth and Hugh, I initially thought yes this must be a good chance of being her, Owen appears to have died prior to 1841 census, as this appears to be some of the family in Church Street, Llangefni :-

Elizth Rowlands 40
Hannah 15
Ann 15
Elizth 8
HO107/1360/ 8/4 / 1

1851 census :-

Elizabeth Rowlands 50 Widow occ Mangler b Amlwch
Hugh 16 b Tregaian
Thomas Phelps 2 Grandson b London
Elizabeth Phelps 3 Granddaughter b London
Residing Church Street, Llangefni
Census ref HO107/2520/30/15

It is in 1861 when Elizabeth snr states she is a Mangler widow of Agricultural Labourer
Residing Church Street,  Llangefni
Census ref RG09/4362/51/9
Keyboard86

OK I can locate John O from 1891 until 1911 in Saker Street, Everton, he married an Ellen Riley in 1886 West Derby, the fact that the 1871 census for Elizabeth and that of the Hugh above, suggests Tregaian needs to be looked into, it is only the occupation of Owen that at marriage to Thomas Davies and the above for her possible mother that differs?

Who were the parents of the "Phelps" Grandchildren?
Keyboard86