Sarah Cresswell/Ann Coppins/Richard Coppins

[PaulineJ]

I can only see a plain Sarah coppins baptism (no Cresswell).
The 1852 marriage index does not show any middle name.

Is there an occupation listed on any of the richard-sarah  kids' baptisms (1818-1836ish)?

What names witness the 1852 marriage?

[rosie99]

Following on from Pauline mentioning the  marriage index, the parish register for the marriage and the brides signature when she married George Ashwood do not have a middle name for Sarah Coppins.

It looks more like one of the 'added on later' middle names 

Witnesses were Charles Henry Ashwood & Sarah Anne Ashwood.   
Sarah's father Richard was a Tailor.

[PaulineJ]

Looks like sarah ann ashwood is the bride's sister.

Mary ashwood birth 1852, mmn Coppins.

[Christine53]

Thank you for your PM , Mary. It's best to reply on this thread so that others are kept in the loop with any progress that's been made.

There is a possible connection to the Cresswell family , but I can't see any evidence for Sarah Cresswell Coppins , as has been indicated by other Rootschatters.

Mary Coppins , full age spinster , father Richard Coppins , dead , married 25 Dec 1852 St Pancras
Frederick Creswell , full age bachelor, law clerk , father John Creswell painter.

[hsteller]

Just for the record.

Sarah COPPINS was born 7 Jul 1831 at St Pancras Middlesex England, daughter of Richard & Sarah COPPINS nee SUTER.
She married George ASHWOOD on 26 Mar 1852 at St Marylebone Middlesex, and emigrated to Australia in 1852-3.

Richard COPPINS and Sarah SUTER were married on 21 Dec 1817 at Southampton Hampshire.

Richard COPPINS was baptised 29 Jan 1797 at Lenham Kent, son of Arthur Britcher and Ann COPPINS nee HOW (formerly LOUDER).  Richard died 22 Apr 1884 at Altmar Oswego New York USA.  Richard was a tailor, and as far as I know, he was NOT in the army, but the family did spend some time in Ireland.  Richard left England about 1838-39, and remarried in America in 1850.

Sarah SUTER was baptised 2 Nov 1794 at Minstead Hampshire, daughter of John and Mary SUTER nee HOLMAN.  Sarah died 10 Sep 1871 at St Pancras Middlesex.  Sarah's sister, Ann SUTER (incorrectly listed as Ann COPPINS in the 1871 Census), was baptised 29 Nov 1801 at Minstead, and died 1 Jun 1872 at St Pancras, and never married.

The surname CRESWELL is associated with the COPPINS family - Richard's sister Harriet married John CRESWELL in 1820 at Chatham Kent, and Richard and Sarah's daughter Mary COPPINS, married Frederick CRESWELL (John's son) in 1852 at St Pancras, and Jane FRANKLIN, widow of Richard and Sarah's son William Henry COPPINS, married John CRESWELL, son of John and brother of Frederick.

The mixup of the surname CRESWELL occurred about 40 years ago when my father and I made a mistake in our research, but that mistake has been handed on and on many times, even though we corrected our mistake about 35 years ago, the mistake still persists and is passed around among "researchers".

thank you
Helen Steller