Hendersons of Linlithgowshire

[kiwican]

i was just looking at margaret jnr born at wallabi street westport on the 07 of september 1879 well in 1906 there was a margaret henderson who married  an edward  Buchanan  the same name that mary margarets mother was using and mixing with william casey  is that  close happaning luck or what

[kiwican]

in 1909 isabella married a richard thomas brooking   same name she used in the news paper when margaret  henderson O connell died in 1934 it said mrs Brooking loving daughter or  margaret

[Forfarian]

I had an unexpected opportunity to visit the Scotland's People Centre today. I searched for all the deaths of William Hendersons born 1849 plus or minus three years and died in 1894 or later, and checked all except the death of servicemen in the first world war, because (a) William would have been too old to serve and (b) the service deaths don't include the mother's name. I did not find any with mother McGill, so it looks as if William did not die in Scotland, or if he did his age at death was out by more than 3 years.

[Rosinish]

That was really good of you Forfarian!

I think this may now eliminate the thought that he may have returned to Scotland?

Peter,

Do you know if your g g/father William disappeared prior to your g/father William returning home or did he disappear after your g/father returned home?

I think there's the possibility of him dying where he was working in OZ with possibly no ID on him?

It does seem unlikely although not impossible that he abandoned his family having had so many children?

Annie

[Forfarian]

I looked at the death of Ann McGill or Henderson. She is described as the widow of William Henderson, miner, and daughter of Morton McGill and Ann, maiden surname not listed, or it might be McGill again.

So William was alive in 1861, but dead by 1872. Sure enough, he died in Whitburn in 1867, parents Peter Henderson and Agnes Thomson.

From the 1851, 1861 and 1871 censuses noted upthread William and Ann/Agnes McGill had
William, born 1846/7
James, born 1848/9
Agnes, born 1851/2
John, born 1852/3
Isabella, born 1862/3

From the IGI, they had
Marion, born 4 December 1857
Marion, born 8 December 1859
Isabella, born 23 May 1862
Margaret, born 10 May 1865

Of those, only Isabella was with her parents in 1871.

Marion Henderson, aged 0, died in Whitburn in 1858
Marion Henderson, age not listed, died in Whitburn in 1860
Margaret Henderson, aged 2, died in Whitburn in 1866

[anne_p]

I too think OZ is the likely place for William's death.

I have trawled through hundreds of Hendersons in NZ and can find no trace of this family prior to 1909 the marriage of their daughter, Isabella and Margaret's own 2nd marriage to Michael O'Connor in 1916.

Where were they between 1890 and 1909?
Could the entire family be in OZ?

The other thing to note is that Margaret died at her daughter's home.

I can locate her married daughter between 1909 and her mothers death at various addresses in Grey Lynn including,  ( 1928 onwards) the  same address a where her mother died.

By scrolling forward through the same ERs, there are no obvious Hedersons or O'Connells at the same address nor even in this entire area of Grey Lynn, Auckland

One family only with a mother named Margaret lived at 28 Pollen Street, Grey Lynn

The births of  the unmarried daughters living with this woman can easily be located, proving that she was a different Margaret Henderson.

Has Kiwican obtained Margaret's 2nd marriage cert to see where she was living?

[Rosinish]

Doing well Forfarian with another generation both sides & I have to say I like the forename Morton!

Thanks Ann_p,

That kind of puts a different angle on things.

I think William disappeared around 1900ish not too long after the birth of their last child?

The fact there's no trace of any of them is strange...mind boggling so it would seem viable for the whole family to relocate?

Peter mentioned he would need to pay quite a lot of £ for the marriage but I'm unsure if he has gone ahead & ordered it?

Annie

[anne_p]

The reason that I think that OZ is the obvious place is Margaret's own sister, Elizabeth Casey who married in 1888
I don't know where she married in NZ but the birth info on Ancestry shows that all of her children were registered in Palmerston, Otago from 1889 through to 1902 before this family moved to Helenburgh NSW.

Their brother, Peter Casey was already living in Helenburgh at this time
Sadly, the 1910 death annoucement for their brother Andrew Casey does not state where he died.
Only that he travelled extensively during his career in shipping.
I would guess that he died overseas, possibly Hong Kong?

[kiwican]

thanks again for all that imformation i havent orderd any paper work yet i was just going to order my gg grandmother margaret her new wedding certificate to see if it had on widdower or divorced is it worth getting that  cost me 30$ au to get for 2 words  widower or divorced