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Re: Hendersons of Linlithgowshire
« Reply #90 on: Thursday 15 June 17 10:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Forfarian,

I downloaded the William Henderson and Margaret Buchanan marriage certificate, it was a RC in Whitburn 17th June 1872. William was an Ironstone Miner son of a William Henderson, miner and Jean McGill. Margaret was daughter of Peter Buchanan and Mary ARBUCKLE. Their addresses were in West Calder.


 Could this be the same Mary Arbuckle who married Peter Cas(s)ey?

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Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Pat(t)erson.

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Re: Hendersons of Linlithgowshire
« Reply #91 on: Thursday 15 June 17 11:07 BST (UK) »
The Margaret Casey we seek was from Newton Glasgow?
"Newton is a mainly residential district in the Scottish town of Cambuslang in South Lanarkshire"
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Hendersons of Linlithgowshire
« Reply #92 on: Thursday 15 June 17 11:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Whiteout,

Posted in error, sorry.


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Re: Hendersons of Linlithgowshire
« Reply #93 on: Thursday 15 June 17 11:13 BST (UK) »
on margarets death certificate it says her parents william casey amd mary casey  im confused who buchanans areeee please explane ?

Death certificates are only filled in with what the informant thinks they know, not fact.
If Margarets father died when she was young, she might not have told her children the correct name or her children got it wrong at her death.

My own Great Grandfather who died in NZ had a death cert saying he was born in Edinburgh, guess what he was born in Dysart, Fife.  This was uncovered by census information.
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
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Re: Hendersons of Linlithgowshire
« Reply #94 on: Thursday 15 June 17 11:30 BST (UK) »
Forfarian and Tidybooks if the marriage was Roman Catholic, then is that why they don't appear in the IGI at Familysearch?

I think we are on to something.
However I think I will go sleep
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Re: Hendersons of Linlithgowshire
« Reply #95 on: Thursday 15 June 17 11:38 BST (UK) »
so you saying my ggmother was casey but lived with buchana

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Re: Hendersons of Linlithgowshire
« Reply #96 on: Thursday 15 June 17 12:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Peter,

At this stage, we are not saying that Casey stayed with Buchanan's, but just trying to get things to work out to suit what little we know already. Margaret may have been an illegitimate Casey but then her mother married a Buchanan, and she may have used her step dad's surname or registrar used that surname for her name.

This is only a theorem and we do not have proof yet. I have been at the search for 4 days now, and I do not think I am any further forward. I have had theories but no proof. The passenger list does not give enough actual information, only gives "Linlithgow" as the county of Linlithgowshire. The family looks OK, but we cannot get any census information to back it up.

The lack of marriage certificate for William Henderson and Margaret Casey is annoying, I have looked at Catholic records as well as Church of Scotland, and nothing turned up. The death certificate gives ages of children but no names, and we do not know who the 9 children are.

So no real progress made yet. Something may turn up, got to keep positive.


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Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Pat(t)erson.

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Re: Hendersons of Linlithgowshire
« Reply #97 on: Thursday 15 June 17 12:29 BST (UK) »
thanks tom she had william 1877 margaret 7 september 1879  isabella 25 december 1883 peter 28 march 1881 james 29 june 1890 thats all i know

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Re: Hendersons of Linlithgowshire
« Reply #98 on: Thursday 15 June 17 13:59 BST (UK) »
Forfarian and Tidybooks if the marriage was Roman Catholic, then is that why they don't appear in the IGI at Familysearch?
It should not be, because Roman Catholic marriages were not exempt from being registered, and this one obviously was registered because it is on Scotland's People.

My understanding is that the IGI included all registered marriages from 1855 to 1874, so I am also surprised that this marriage is not in the IGI.

I cannot find a marriage of Mary Arbuckle to a Buchanan before 1874. But Peter Cassey, coal miner, married to Mary Arbuckle, died in 1873, and his parents were John Cassey and ..... Margaret Buchanan.

On the other hand, if this is the Margaret Casey we are looking for, why would she give her name as Buchanan, when her father was still living?  Unless ..... she was apparently the second daughter. Suppose she was named after her father's mother in accordance with the naming tradition. Then she would have been Margaret Buchanan Cas(s)ey. When they came to register the marriage, the registrar got muddled up and thought she had said her surname was Buchanan.
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