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1939 register
« on: Saturday 10 June 17 16:44 BST (UK) »
Does anyone know what the dates represent when names are changed on the 1939 register?
I have come across one or two that have been changed but the dates attached are not when the event took place. Is there any significance in the dates shown or is it simply a delay in catching up. I had thought it was when the event took place but am beginning to think it must be something to do with the NHS.
How can a change of name for a male be tracked down? No record looks to have been made.

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Re: 1939 register
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 June 17 17:04 BST (UK) »
They are when the change was notified to the NHS/doctor.
This may be after a marriage, or at a hospital visit or doctor's visit after the change of name took place.
It is normally reasonably soon after the change but in some cases could be years if the person does not go to their doctor or a hospital.
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Re: 1939 register
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 June 17 17:09 BST (UK) »
They are when the change was notified to the NHS/doctor.
This may be after a marriage, or at a hospital visit or doctor's visit after the change of name took place.
It is normally reasonably soon after the change but in some cases could be years if the person does not go to their doctor or a hospital.
Cheers
Guy

Thanks Guy,

Interesting to know, I also wondered about dates if they seemed out of sync.

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Re: 1939 register
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 June 17 21:37 BST (UK) »
If a change of name was by deed poll, there may be no easily accessible record, because most deed polls weren't registered. If a child's name was changed, this could be due to  adoption, and it is obviously difficult to find independent corroboration of this.


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Re: 1939 register
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 11 June 17 23:19 BST (UK) »
The date on the 1939 for my mum's first marriage to my dad was only 11 days afterwards.

But her second marriage as a widow was just under 2 months after the event.

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Re: 1939 register
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 June 17 11:13 BST (UK) »
If a change of name was by deed poll, there may be no easily accessible record, because most deed polls weren't registered. If a child's name was changed, this could be due to  adoption, and it is obviously difficult to find independent corroboration of this.
I have (just one)  person who changed their name, presumably by deed poll? - after 1939 - and the 1939 was amended accordingly.
Skelcey (Skelsey Skelcy Skeley Shelsey Kelcy Skelcher) - Warks, Yorks, Lancs <br />Hancox - Warks<br />Green - Warks<br />Draper - Warks<br />Lynes - Warks<br />Hudson - Warks<br />Morris - Denbs Mont Salop <br />Davies - Cheshire, North Wales<br />Fellowes - Cheshire, Denbighshire<br />Owens - Cheshire/North Wales<br />Hicks - Cornwall<br />Lloyd and Jones (Mont)<br />Rhys/Rees (Mont)

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Re: 1939 register
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 June 17 11:18 BST (UK) »
If a change of name was by deed poll, there may be no easily accessible record, because most deed polls weren't registered. If a child's name was changed, this could be due to  adoption, and it is obviously difficult to find independent corroboration of this.

Changes of name by Deed Poll can be found recorded in the London Gazette.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: 1939 register
« Reply #7 on: Monday 12 June 17 11:19 BST (UK) »
All deed polls are registered!
Deed Polls must be registered  at the Royal Courts of Justice, and are posted in The Gazette.

But, you don't need a Deed Poll to change your name?!
People in the UK can use whatever name they wish - just as long as there is no intention to deceive or defraud.
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Re: 1939 register
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 June 17 11:26 BST (UK) »
Registering a deed poll change of name with the courts  was optional, and cost extra therefore the majority are not registered.

But if it is registered (known as enrolled) then details will be at the National Archives (Series J18) and it will also be published in the London Gazette.