Mary Polin Greenwich 1939

[AnneToday]

Mary Theresa POLIN married Frederick C HARRIS in Mar Qtr 1939.  Does anyone have this couple in their family tree, please?  I think, Mary was alone in Maidenhead in the 1939 Register and Frederick was working in the City of London.  Was this Frederick Charles HARRIS and did they both survive the war?    Thank you.

[KGarrad]

The 1939 National Register was compiled at the outbreak of war - in September!
So the happy couple should be together on the 1939 Register.

A birth registration:
June qtr 1906
Gravesend Registration District     vol 2a, page 676

Polin, Mary Theresa

[AnneToday]

Thank you KGarrard. 

The marriage took place in the March quarter of 1939 and a baby was born in the September quarter. I understand from FindMyPast, if Frederick was working at his job (hotel waiter) and was living-in for that particular set of shifts, he would have been put on the hotel 1939 Register.  Has anyone found this not to be the case?

Mary's birth is as you say.

 

[KGarrad]

The 1939 National Register wasn't a census - it wasn't important to know where people spent the night.

Having issued forms to more than 41 million people, the enumerators were charged with the task of visiting every household in Great Britain and Northern Ireland to collect the names, addresses, martial statuses and other key details of every civilian in the country, issuing identity cards on the spot.

The identity cards issued were essential items from the point the Register was taken right up until 1952, when the legal requirement to carry them ceased.

[AnneToday]

OK, thank you, but Frederick is on the hotel list, as married, but there is no suitable Mrs Harris living at the hotel on the same list.  (Thora A Harris was married to Arthur.)  So, I need to check whether Mary Polin is his wife.

Unfortunately, there are over 50 possible marriages for Fred and I am trying to narrow the field before I begin to buy copies of marriage certs.

 

[carol8353]

You say that Mary had a baby in Sept 1939,presumably before 29th Sept?

She will appear on the 1939 register with the babies name blanked out,unless it has been proved that the baby died before they stopped updating the register in 1991.

As she was a new mum it is also likely that she was moved to the country as it would have been so much safer than staying in London as the war began.

[AnneToday]

"1 more person who is officially closed" - this is on Mary's record on the Register, so I presume it is the child, whose birth was registered in the September quarter. 

When I said Mary was alone, I meant without Frederick.  As Frederick was living-in as a hotel waiter, Mary may never have lived in The City with him.  There was another baby in 1944, so this became a regular marriage, for wartime anyway.

[jennifer c]

If her parents were Mary Catherine and Mathew, mother died Greenwich 1934 aged 56

Jennifer

[AnneToday]

Yes, thank you, Jennifer, these are her parents.  I've found Mathew and Mary with five children.
There's some confusion over the birth name - I have Mary Catherine on the 1911 Census and everything else, but Mary Theresa on the birth record. (Born in Gravesend, 1906 Vol 2a 676 - from FreeBMD and confirmed on Ancestry.)

The marriage details just say Mary Polin.   

Do you have any details of Frederick, Mary's husband, please, - such as was his second name Charles and was he born in 1912?