Grahams of Shettleston

[Forfarian]

Well, it may be that no record of her birth or baptism has survived, and if she wasn't married to William there obviously wouldn't be a marriage record.

If James was illegitimate, there is a possibility that his arrival in the world might have attracted the usual disapproval of the kirk session, and if their record have survived there might be some information there about his parents. Unfortunately the KS records are not (yet) available online, although they have been digitised. Also they are not indexed, so you just have to plough through them looking for the people of interest.

[Bryan60]

Thanks Forfarian,

What about William then? We know from James's marriage cert he was a farmer but died (also Margaret, his mother) sometime between 1841 and James marriage in 1862. Dont know what area though but James was living at Millerston, Hogganfield, Lanarkshire.. Shettleston parish. William may even have come from Ireland / England for all we know.
Hes really making my brick wall even higher. 

Bryan

[Forfarian]

What about William then? We know from James's marriage cert he was a farmer

There is just one farmer named William Graham in the parish of Barony in 1841: at Lambhill, Maryhill.
William Graham, 30; John Graham, 20; Elizabeth Graham, 25; Margeret Grahm, 20; Helen Graham, 20, plus two servants.

Lambhill is about 4 or 5 miles from Millerston as the crow flies, so it's not impossible. But you would need some other evidence to be sure that this is the right William Graham.

[Bryan60]

James's son (my g granda) ended up at Lochside Cottage Lambhill as a pig breeder after being a stone miner for years with his family. I have the census for 1891,1901 & 1911 showing their progress. I dont think this william is mine s there were a lot ofGrahams up there at tht time. I had already saw that family and dismissed them.

Thanks again.

[isobelw]

There was a William Graham living in Millerston in 1841 but he was a Limestone Miner. He was 22.
Isobel

[Bryan60]

Any other details of family Isobel. May have been a miner prior to farmer. Farmer listed on James's marriage cert in 1862. Mining seems to run through the family right up to 1900s.

Thanks,
Bryan

[isobelw]

He was with an Elizabeth Graham age 55 and a James Graham age 9 and a Robt Ferguson age 40. Address Millerston.
Isobel

[Bryan60]

Thanks Isobel,

Elizabeth Graham could have been his mother but i dont know where this James would fit. He's 9 yrs old which means he was born around 1832 where my James was born 1841.

Bryan

[isobelw]

There are no relationships shown on the 1841 census so James could be a brother/ nephew of William. William is only 22 so 9 year old James can't be his son, but it is not to say William couldn't be the father of the 1841 James.
Isobel