John Hannell IRVIN b. circa 1780

[Millmoor]

Meant to say that you need to search for South Shields in the Familysearch catalog to find the records I was referring to.

William

[Tim Irvin]

Hi Jeni,

I know the Irvin family were Presbyterians, and worshipped at St. Columba's church in North Shields. Maybe Jane Hill was from South Shields, and the Banns were called there before the wedding.

Tim

[starsista]

Thanks, Tim. 

Just now I found a message from another descendant of Richard IRVIN, and her husband has created a tree, so I sent a message off to her, maybe her tree is the same as yours and if not, maybe she can tell me whether or not she has Barbara in her tree.  I'd like to get to the bottom of this mystery.

Jeni

[Tim Irvin]

Hi Jeni,

I hope you do. I wonder who this other relative may be. Perhaps we may know them?

Tim

[starsista]

Further to my research on John Hannell IRVIN, I have received Barbara's death certificate and this shows her mother to be Jane HILL.  So we are now further down the track, and another direct descendant of Richard IRVIN from the fishing/whaling company of North Shields has Barbara on her tree, although nothing of what happened to Barbara after her baptism.

Name and Surname - Barbara Steel Simpson
Name and surname of father - John Irvin
Name and, if known, maiden surname of mother - Jane Irvin formerly Hill
Rank or Profession of father - Captain Royal Navy

Jeni

[SelDen]

You may wish to check the National Archives, as they have some naval records online:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/?research-category=online&sub-category%5B%5D=royal-navy-royal-marines

[starsista]

Thank you.  I have had a quick look and so far no John IRVIN in the records I checked so far, although there was a John IRVIN will and that was 1800, so not the right John, may still be a connection anyway.  Will continue searching the Naval Records.

Jeni

[RWTaylor]

"Information I had been given said that the IRVINE family owned a fishing fleet and lived in Aberdeen, opposite a golf course.  This might be true of John Hennell IRVIN, son of the above Richard IRVIN, however, whether Barbara's father owned a fishing fleet, I don't know."

Not sure if you are still searching, or if this will help, or indeed if you have this already, however ...

My Granny was in service with Sir John Irvin (born North Shields 16/3/1874) in Aberdeen (86 Queen's Road) in 1922. He died in Aberdeen 25/3/1952 and is buried in Springbank Cemetery, Aberdeen, along with his wife Mary Boak, and daughter. From what I have gathered so far, he did have a fishing fleet in Aberdeen. The property is  or has been redeveloped as "luxury apartments" but I'm not sure about the golf course.

RWT

[starsista]

Thank you for this information, RW, every bit helps paint a picture.

My aunt gave me that information before she passed, so where it came from, I have no idea.

Regards
Jeni Simpson