In the 1851 census the only children were James, Catherine, Winifred and Anne. In the 1861 census only Catherine and Winifred were at home. Interestingly their neighbours, also from Ireland, were Patrick and Anne Roach with a baby daughter who had their brother in law Martin Gillmore age 16 living with them as well as their sister in law Wineford Durkan, a widow, and her 2 young daughters. Catherine Carroll married a James Durkin around 1865