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Re: Help - Why did women end up in Tasmania in the 1830's - 1840's?
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 11 April 17 07:58 BST (UK) »
Yes I know and after much reading the dates of the DAVIDSONS in Eden don't co-inside with the DAVIDSON's in other places.

As I said it was a family story and I never trust family stories.
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Re: Help - Why did women end up in Tasmania in the 1830's - 1840's?
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 11 April 17 08:30 BST (UK) »
Where on earth did the information about the family being whalers originate? 

I treat all family stories with a great deal of caution.....bit like online trees :P

Wasn't James a farmer in Gippsland?

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Re: Help - Why did women end up in Tasmania in the 1830's - 1840's?
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 11 April 17 08:47 BST (UK) »
Perhaps Hannah was the whaler? ;)

In which case she may have been in New Zealand in the 1830s and working on ships to fund her missionary work in the Far North?

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Re: Help - Why did women end up in Tasmania in the 1830's - 1840's?
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 11 April 17 08:50 BST (UK) »
After James and Hannah left Hobart they bought land in Gippsland and farmed - Yes.

I think some of the distant family still live there - I remember visiting them when I was a child and getting to feed a new calf.

I think the DAVIDSON name has just been picked up and the shipwright and the going to sea by James has been implied to be whaling.

I had a lovely hour reading about whaling history though so all is not lost.

Just got the red post. Hurworth - thank you so much I needed that laugh.
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Re: Help - Why did women end up in Tasmania in the 1830's - 1840's?
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 11 April 17 09:06 BST (UK) »
Probable burial for Hannah's parents - from National Burial Index for England & Wales
William INGRAM, buried Beccles, 14 May 1846 (thus b abt 1772
Ann INGRAM, 88, buried at Beccles, 20 March 1857 (thus b abt 1769)

A transcription from Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 gives Hannah's mother's name as Amy - probably wrong transcription
Hannah INGRAM, baptised 07 Dec 1806, St Michael's Beccles.
Father's first name(s)   William
Mother's first name(s)   Amy

Possible marriage for  Hannah's parents - from Suffolk Marriage Index Transcription
24 Jan 1791 at Beccles, William INGRAM, Ann LANE, both single

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Re: Help - Why did women end up in Tasmania in the 1830's - 1840's?
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 11 April 17 10:05 BST (UK) »
Going on the idea that family stories are just family stories I have ignored the story above. TasLincs have a few Davidsons arriving in the right time frame.

One on the Tropic in January 1838 says Mr and Mrs Davidson and a few lines further down 'and family'

Mr and Mrs arriving on the Eamont in May 1840. No names given.

These are the only 2 in any relevant time frame.
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Re: Help - Why did women end up in Tasmania in the 1830's - 1840's?
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 11 April 17 11:28 BST (UK) »
Does anyone think this is a co-incidence.

I have just found an article that is pretty close to the entry for James DAVIDSON in the book of Cando's mums. VICTORIA AND IT'S METROPOLIS.

The entry in the book states:- "Prior to this he had undergone much hardshop, having been wrecked in the brig Caroline Leslie in Lagoon Bay."

http://oceans1.customer.netspace.net.au/tas-wrecks.html

Caroline. Barque, 157 tons. Lbd 74-9 x 21-8 x 5 ft. Built at Chittagong, India, 1821; reg. Hobart 7/1830, 1/1838, 14/1842. Ashore, wrecked, in a gale at Lagoon Bay on the Forestier Peninsular, Tasmania, 2 October 1843. No lives lost.  On 10 December 1839, under Captain Edward Woodin, stranded off Swan Island, Tasmania, while on a voyage from Hobart for Melbourne; refloated after part of her cargo was discharged and continued on her voyage. [TS1]

and this

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/28650264?searchTerm=Davidson%20brig%20caroline&searchLimits=
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Re: Help - Why did women end up in Tasmania in the 1830's - 1840's?
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 11 April 17 23:30 BST (UK) »
If you look at newspaper reports in 1843 there are two brigs called Caroline.

The one that sank:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/36234863/3610344
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/8754171?searchTerm=brig%20caroline&searchLimits=l-state=Tasmania|||l-decade=184|||l-year=1843|||l-month=10

The other was still sailing in December:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2951694?searchTerm=brig%20caroline&searchLimits=l-state=Tasmania|||l-decade=184|||l-year=1843|||l-month=12


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Re: Help - Why did women end up in Tasmania in the 1830's - 1840's?
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 12 April 17 00:30 BST (UK) »
Strange entry https://www.freebmd.org.uk/   I wonder who this Hannah INGRAM married in 1837

Hannah INGRAM, Newcastle, GRO Vol 18 pg 144

"The district Newcastle is not a valid district, or a known variant of a valid district. "

JM

Found the matching entries for this under Volume 17, with this helpful Postem:

"This is Josiah Pankhurst (not Parkhurst) who married Hannah Ingram in Wolstanton. She is listed under Vol 18, page 144 rather than Vol 17"

Hannah Pankhurst widow of Josiah died in 1847 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N4K6-826
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.