Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)

[petey22]

Norfolk Family History Society
transcription - Swaffam

Buried 17 November 1806 Joseph Rogers age 81. Surgeon. Married

  thus birth year = 1725 

This kinda contradicts the Norfolk Chronicle, 26 nov 1806: 'Yesterday se' night died at Swaffham, aged 84. Joseph Rogers, Gent. Formerly a surgeon and Apothecary of this city'
thus year of birth = 1722

[jonwarrn]

Catherine Hardy formerly Pavior  nee Rogers  left a will, it is at the Norfolk Records Office

1834 Catherine Hardy folio 63 #42
Archdeaconry wills.

Here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSN6-9SQW-P

Buried 17 November 1806 Joseph Rogers age 81. Surgeon. Married

Parish register here. First entry
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DT1Y-1T

[petey22]

Looking for "joseph rogers" just in UK / England / Norfolk in the 1700's produces a lot of results (some may be on different pages/images in the same document). This is also because Norfolk records on FS are mainly open to view at home.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/full-text/results?count=20&q.fullName=%22joseph%20rogers%22&c.recordYear1=on&f.recordYear0=1700&c.recordPlace1=on&f.recordPlace0=9&c.recordPlace2=on&f.recordPlace1=9%2CEngland&c.recordPlace3=on&f.recordPlace2=9%2CEngland%2CNorfolk

I spent the weekend wading through each and every document extracting any information regarding Joseph's whereabouts. A quick summary:

1725 - birth - unknown, born most probably in Norfolk († in 1806 aged 81 = 1725)
1750 - Heigham, Norfolk (marriage to Elizabeth Rippingale)
1750 - 1774 - Norfolk
1775 - Knapton, Norfolk
1776 - Swaffield, Norfolk
1777 (sept) - Swaffield, Norfolk
1777 (nov) - Kidwelly, Carmathan 
1784 - London (marriage to Susanna Ingram)
1786 - 1795 - Pinner, Middlesex
1806 - Swaffham, Norfolk (place of death, aged)

His eldest son, Harmer Rogers of Woodbridge, Essex, is mentioned between 1793 and 1795.
By stating that Harmer is Josephs eldest son implies one or more other sons,,,,,,, 

The mention of hometown being Kidwelly in the county of Carmathan, came as a suprise 
Anyway, the timeline grows 

[petey22]

Searching Ancestry and Family search.com there are 48 Joseph Rogers's born between 1720 and 1727, six of whom have father also named Joseph:

Joseph Rogers bap 21-08-1720 St Leonard, Yorkshire. parents Joseph & unknown
Joseph Rogers bap 17-04-1721 St Mary, Whitechapel, Middx. parents: Joseph & Elizabeth
Joseph Rogers bap 25-08-1723 Melton, Hampshire. parents: Jos & Mary
Joseph Rogers bap 11-03-1723 St Botolph, Aldgate, London. parents Jos & Sarah
Joseph Rogers bap 20-11-1725  Stanhope, Durham. parents: Joseph & unknown
Joseph Rogers bap 20-06-1726 St James, Piccadilly, Westminster. parent: Joseph & Mary

of these 6, 3 are born London (none born Norfolk), so these 3 look to be the best candidates.
Not really sure where to go from here 

[MollyC]

Petey - You may wish to check the baptism date of no. 5.

[jonwarrn]

given & bequeathed (that is to say) to Joseph Rogers son of Joseph Rogers of London Gentleman and Nephew to Catherine the wife of Mr John Harmer of the City of Norwich Surgeon the sum of ten guineas to be paid within seven months next after my Decease.....

Marriages
31 Oct 1717 at St Benet Paul's Wharf
John Harmer + Catherine Cross
JH of Norwich
Catherine of St Brides London

3 May 1724 at St Giles in the Fields
Joseph Rogers + Mary Cross

So possibly the best candidate is

Joseph Rogers bap 20-06-1726 St James, Piccadilly, Westminster. parent: Joseph & Mary

[petey22]

So possibly the best candidate is

Joseph Rogers bap 20-06-1726 St James, Piccadilly, Westminster. parent: Joseph & Mary

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Totally agree, fantastic !!! 

[petey22]

found this:
at St Dunston and All Saints, Stepney, London. Burial 30-05-1751,
Mary wife of Joseph,  aged 49 (=b c1702)
So closing in on the Cross family 
(sorry, I cant figure out how to attatch a crop of the image )

[petey22]

done some further work on the 'Cross sisters' theory:

On searching for every Catherine and Mary Cross (1680 - 1700) there were only one Catherine and Mary with parents of the same name:

Catherine Cross bap 10-06-1679, St. Martin in the Fields, Westminster, London
parents: William Cross and Catherine.
Mary Cross bap 03-04-1683, St. Martin in the Fields, Westminster, London
parents: William Cross and Catherine.

I am assuming that both girls would not be married before the age of 18, thus:
Catherine married in 1717 was born before 1699
Mary married in 1724 was born before 1706

William Cross and Catherine must have married outside London as there are no immediate candidates.

This also kinda disproves my previous post:
'at St Dunston and All Saints, Stepney, London. Burial 30-05-1751,
Mary wife of Joseph,  aged 49 (= b c1702)' 

Will now search for Marys born 1700-1706 in London