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Re: Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)
« Reply #45 on: Sunday 08 June 25 22:37 BST (UK) »
given & bequeathed (that is to say) to Joseph Rogers son of Joseph Rogers of London Gentleman and Nephew to Catherine the wife of Mr John Harmer of the City of Norwich Surgeon the sum of ten guineas to be paid within seven months next after my Decease.....

So, if he survived, this one might be a good candidate. Have any others emerged?
It does seem he is originally from London? but I have only managed to find one possible :
Joseph Rogers bap 20-06-1726, St. James, Piccadilly London parents Joseph and Mary.

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Re: Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)
« Reply #46 on: Sunday 08 June 25 22:43 BST (UK) »
Going back to Joseph's son Harmer, the surgeon in Woodford Bridge, I guess this must be his burial at Woodford, 28 January 1802, age 49
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/683617af86557413f932b63c

Sadly a 14 year old Harmer Rogers was buried at Woodford in 1790.
Harmer's wife was Elizabeth.

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Re: Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)
« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 08 July 25 16:12 BST (UK) »
What do we really know about Joseph Rogers ?

His death 17-11-1806 states that he died aged 84 which gives a birth of 1722. It also mentions that he was a Surgeon and Apothecary of Swaffham Norfolk. Incidentally, next to his name on his will there is D.D (Doctor of Divinity?)

First marriage to Elizabeth Rippingale at Heigham, Norfolk, 16-08-1750 and birth of daughter Katherine 16-08-1752, St Andrew Norwich, (Kathrine's date of death unknown)

Second marriage to Susanna Ingram at London, St Lawrence, Guildhall, 09-10-1784.

Birth of his 4 daughters at Pinner, Middlesex, 1786 - 1791.

His death in 1806 in Norfolk (presumably Swaffham)

The beginnings of a nice little-time line with some large gaps, but no real clue to where he was born? Swaffham, Norfolk somewhere else, London or Pinner?  ???


Sudbury Suffolk, Bocking/Braintree Essex, Hendon/Bethnal green Middx.

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Re: Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)
« Reply #48 on: Thursday 10 July 25 18:25 BST (UK) »
Everey so often I pick this line up again and see If I can find something new on various sites.
I came across an entry on IGI for the marriage of Charles Wakeham and Sara Susannah Rogers (father J. Rogers Esq.) 14-12-1811, Norwich, Norfolk. I have this marriage as 03-12-1811 at Black Notley, Essex.
The source is stated as a marriage notice in the 'Norfolk Chronicle' so maybe the date of the notice printed? Unfortunately the image is not available. observations welcome  :)

Yet another new entry on FamilySearch.org, this time the obituary of Sarah Susanna Wakeham (nee Rogers) 27-07-1863, Stamford, Lincolnshire (place of death totally unexpected) and once again frustratingly 'Image unavailable' !!!  ???

Her husband Rev. Charles Wakeham was at Wickenby, Lincs., from 1801 to 1822, hence her obituary in Lincolnshire (not place of death).


https://theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/persons/CreatePersonFrames.jsp?PersonID=582


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Re: Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)
« Reply #49 on: Friday 11 July 25 01:15 BST (UK) »
given & bequeathed (that is to say) to Joseph Rogers son of Joseph Rogers of London Gentleman and Nephew to Catherine the wife of Mr John Harmer of the City of Norwich Surgeon the sum of ten guineas to be paid within seven months next after my Decease.....

So, if he survived, this one might be a good candidate. Have any others emerged?
It does seem he is originally from London? but I have only managed to find one possible :
Joseph Rogers bap 20-06-1726, St. James, Piccadilly London parents Joseph and Mary.


Another good candidate?

Jos. Rogers
Vital • England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Jos. Rogers person details
Name   Jos. Rogers
Sex   Male
Father's Name   Jos Rogers
Father's Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Sarah
Mother's Sex   Female
Event Type   Christening
Event Date   11 Mar 1723
Event Place   Saint Botolph without Aldgate, London, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original)   St Botolph Without Aldgate, London, London, England

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Re: Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)
« Reply #50 on: Friday 11 July 25 08:16 BST (UK) »
Norfolk Family History Society
transcription - Swaffam

Buried 17 November 1806 Joseph Rogers age 81. Surgeon. Married

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Re: Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)
« Reply #51 on: Friday 11 July 25 08:52 BST (UK) »
It was mentioned death of daughter Katherine from first marriage unknown.

Norfolk Chronicle dated 9 August 1834

Saturday last aged 82, Mrs. Catherine Elizabeth Hardy, of St Giles daughter of the late Joseph Rogers
Esq. formerly of Swaffam.


Notes
John Hardy widower married Catherine Elizabeth Paviour- widow 30 January 1815 at St. Julian, Norwich.
Need to find her first marriage

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Re: Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)
« Reply #52 on: Friday 11 July 25 09:10 BST (UK) »
Katherine/Catherine Elizabeth Rogers first marriage was to John Pavior - widower 9 February 1786 at

Saint Dunstan's, London by Banns.

Both were of the parish.
Witnesses were Elizabeth Hollings and Francis Bishop.

There is a John Pavior of Norwich buried Great Yarmouth 15 October 1813 age 58.

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Re: Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)
« Reply #53 on: Friday 11 July 25 09:18 BST (UK) »
Catherine Hardy formerly Pavior  nee Rogers  left a will, it is at the Norfolk Records Office

1834 Catherine Hardy folio 63 #42
Archdeaconry wills.

Might be worth a look if she mentions her half sisters and any children she may have had.