Joseph Rogers of Bocking (st Mary's)

[..claire..]

Hi

There is a probate entry.

Died in Bocking 27 July 1863, effects under £30,000. Her Will and Codicil was proven and granted to

Charles Ody Rooks of Stoke Newington, Middlesex, Gent.
Henry Jackson of Braintree Essex, Gent.
John Jackson of Fornham All Saints Suffolk, Gent

Claire

[petey22]

Hi

From one of the posts about Joseph's marriage to Susanna it would seem that he was a widower.

There is a marriage in Norwich c1750 (where he was practising) to an Elizabeth. One of the children I found to this marriage was a Catherine.

A newspaper report c1820's was a death notice for a Catherine Elizabeth Hardy, an elderly lady whose father was named as the late Joseph Rogers Esq. formerly of Swaffham, Norfolk.

Have you tried in the Norfolk area looking for a birth - there is a Joseph Rogers in Norwich in the 1720's who is a Baker, and could possibly be his father.

Claire

Hi Claire,
thanks for your contribution  Indeed Joseph was a widower and I have played about with this on and off since you posted your findings. I found the 1850 marriage you mention to Elizabeth Rippingale (or Rippingull) at Heigham, Norfolk. I have searched for her demise/burial (1752 -1784) and have a number of possibilities but nothing to say which one 

The newspaper obituary you mention is a great find! I have now found it too on IGI (Norfolk Chronical 09 aug 1834) but unfortunately it is not viewable  so frustrating ! that would be fascinating to read. The baptism of Catherine at St. Anderews, Norwich on 26th aug 1752 ties in nicely although she does suddenly acquires a middle name for her obituary.
I shall plod on 

[petey22]

He dies in Swaffham in Norfolk and was buried there on November 17th 1806 aged 81 yrs and was a surgeon.  So looking for a birthdate c1725.

The newspaper article in the Norfolk Chronicle, 26 nov 1806 reads: ' Yesterday se' nnight died at Swaffham, aged 84, Joseph Rogers, Gent formerly a surgeon and apothecary of this city' .  So aged 84 in 1806 gives a birth year of 1722.

I am attempting to discover the parents and possible siblings of Joseph Rogers c1722.
Searching for a Joseph Rogers born or baptised somewhere in Norfolk yields no immediate candidates   does anyone have any tips? Claire mentioned there being a Joseph Rogers in Norwich in the 1720's, a baker and a possible candidate as Joseph jnr's Father, but try as I may I cant find any mention of him,,,,

[petey22]

Hi
From one of the posts about Joseph's marriage to Susanna it would seem that he was a widower.

There is a marriage in Norwich c1750 (where he was practising) to an Elizabeth. One of the children I found to this marriage was a Catherine.

A newspaper report c1820's was a death notice for a Catherine Elizabeth Hardy, an elderly lady whose father was named as the late Joseph Rogers Esq. formerly of Swaffham, Norfolk.

Have you tried in the Norfolk area looking for a birth - there is a Joseph Rogers in Norwich in the 1720's who is a Baker, and could possibly be his father.
Claire

There is a marriage entry:
Name   Julien Hardy
Record Type   Mariage (Marriage)
Marriage Date   26 sept. 1786 (26 Sep 1786)
Marriage Place   Melesse, Ille-et-Vilaine, France, Bretagne
Spouse   
Catherine Roger

 

[..claire..]

Hi

Think this Catherine was the daughter of a Pierre and Guillametta Bernard. Hope the link works

https://archives-en-ligne.ille-et-vilaine.fr/thot_internet/FrmLotDocFrame.asp?idlot=428181&idfic=524249&ref=428181&appliCindoc=THOPDESC&resX=360&resY=780&init=1&visionneuseHTML5=1

Claire

EDIT : The record of marriage can be found on page 9.
She was also born in 1745, in France (I think)

[jonwarrn]

There is a marriage in Norwich c1750 (where he was practising) to an Elizabeth. One of the children I found to this marriage was a Catherine.

Indenture: Bargain and Sale. Joseph Rogers of Norwich, surgeon, and Elizabeth, his wife, granddaughter of Elizabeth Rippingall of Norwich, widow, decd, to John Harmer of Norwich, surgeon.
30 Aug 1753
Messuage with barns and buildings in St Mary Unburnt and St Saviour, Norwich.
Link to NROCAT
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tt4/

Marriage bond on FS, maybe (and unusually) it doesn't give an occupation for Joseph
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DR17-63G

[jonwarrn]

Using the new FS full text search, The Harmer name comes up a lot with Joseph Rogers.
An eldest son called Harmer?
Letter of Attorney under the Hand and Seal of Joseph Rogers of Pinner in the - County of Middlesex Esquire a Copy hold Tenant of this Manor and also under the Hand and seal of Harmer Rogers of Woodford Bridge in the County of Essex Surgeon , Eldest son of the said Joseph Rogers....
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D1PQ-7X3?view=fullText&keywords=Joseph%20Rogers%2CPinner&lang=en&groupId=

Looking for "joseph rogers" just in UK / England / Norfolk in the 1700's produces a lot of results (some may be on different pages/images in the same document). This is also because Norfolk records on FS are mainly open to view at home.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/full-text/results?count=20&q.fullName=%22joseph%20rogers%22&c.recordYear1=on&f.recordYear0=1700&c.recordPlace1=on&f.recordPlace0=9&c.recordPlace2=on&f.recordPlace1=9%2CEngland&c.recordPlace3=on&f.recordPlace2=9%2CEngland%2CNorfolk

[jonwarrn]

Maybe
Will of Elizabeth Rippingall, Widow of Norwich , Norfolk
26 May 1743
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D509293

Haven't read it, but her granddaughter Elizabeth is certainly in there.

[jonwarrn]

Using the new FS full text search, The Harmer name comes up a lot with Joseph Rogers.

Hopefully something useful here.
Will of John Harmer of Norwich, 1755, Archdeaconry of Norwich
https://nrocatalogue.norfolk.gov.uk/index.php/harmer-john-of-norwich-2

Here it is on FamilySearch (probate details continue next image)
John Harmer of the City of Norwich, Surgeon
Everything to Joseph Rogers of ye said City, Surgeon, who is also named as sole executor
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C398-89VR-4

Go back to the will of Susannah Bacon of Aylsham, 1736
https://nrocatalogue.norfolk.gov.uk/index.php/bacon-susannah-of-aylsham

And here on FS, using full text search (the transcription is not 100% accurate!)
given & bequeathed (that is to say) to Joseph Rogers son of Joseph Rogers of London Gentleman and Nephew to Catherine the wife of Mr John Harmer of the City of Norwich Surgeon the sum of ten guineas to be paid within seven months next after my Decease.....
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSN6-CR28?view=fullText&keywords=Joseph%20Rogers%2CSurgeon&lang=en&groupId==