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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #126 on: Monday 10 April 17 02:38 BST (UK) »
From initial post...

"His name is either Gordon Blair [most used] or James Gordon Blair used often"

In my question regarding the summary, this has not been clarified as to where/when/age given when using the name at different times?

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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #127 on: Monday 10 April 17 02:44 BST (UK) »
1861 April ..... and the Scottish Gordon departs from Plymouth,    :) 

I Wonder, perhaps Gordon was in transit, heading to Mount Wise Barracks perhaps (Clowance) where a William BLAIR, a married chap aged 29, a Gunner in the Royal Artillery was stationed with his wife Mary Anne Blair, aged 35.   William BLAIR was born Scotland…. 
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7YT-CFN 

Ummm..... and other posts show that Gordon's parents could be William and Jane.... .... Could Gordon have a brother named William?   

Here's one (of many at that index) possibility
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTL3-DMR   

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #128 on: Monday 10 April 17 02:47 BST (UK) »
This James ties in with the birth of a James I found & the birth year is consistent with that birth?

So, is this really James or could it be James Gordon?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBHC-C9D

James Blair
Census 1861
Age 35
Birthplace Stirlingshire
RD Bothkennar
County Stirlingshire
Birth Year (Estimated)   1826

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #129 on: Monday 10 April 17 02:52 BST (UK) »
I think finding him could be a problem as he used different names, dates of birth & areas of birth  ???

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #130 on: Monday 10 April 17 02:58 BST (UK) »
From initial post;

"Gordon's birth is as used by him on documents is any of 1826, 1828, 1832, 1847 ... there are more if I dig deeper but that'll give you an idea what has been used. Also his place of birth is as much varied too. Stirling, Stirlingshire, St. Ninians, Glasgow and Dumfries to name some. His parents are listed as John & Jane Blair - farmers"

No confirmation as yet to when/where these occurrences took place  ???

OP has all the info. but no good to the people researching who don't know i.e. making it harder to help tracking him down with possibilities.

Annie

Added. Hence my interest in this James born 04 Apr 1826 a year of birth given by Gordon?
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #131 on: Monday 10 April 17 03:00 BST (UK) »
majm posted - There is a Gordon BLAIR in Ipswich,Qld in the 1860s who is NOT working in a lawyers office.  Please see my earlier reply giving live links to newspaper cutting.

From an obituary in the Queensland Times Ipswich Herald and General Advertiser 25/8/1900 -
Gordon Blair was born in Scotland. He arrived in Australia almost 40 years ago and during nearly all of that time resided in Ipswich. He first entered the office of Hon Arthur McAllister, that gentleman at the time practising his profession as a solicitor in Ipswich. Mr Blair's somewhat extensive legal knowledge acquired in the old country served him in good stead in his fresh sphere of duty. It was in connection with her Majesty's Customs that deceased gentleman was best known. His first appointment with the government of Queensland dated from 8th May 1865.
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And here too http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/182857558 

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #132 on: Monday 10 April 17 03:03 BST (UK) »

The Telegraph 1 Feb 1940 p22
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/187289847?
...obit for William KIPPEN....


QLD BDM marriage
1865 / C346  KIPPEN Jane  m. MARKS James

death
1897 / C2073  MARKS Jane  parents   BLAIR / Jane

Queensland Times, Ipswich Herald and General Advertiser 27 May 1897 p5
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/125050613?
...obit for Jane MARKS.....Mrs MARKS was a sister of Mr Gordon BLAIR late of Her Majesty's Customs........

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #133 on: Monday 10 April 17 03:18 BST (UK) »
....
An online tree includes the death certificate -
Jane BLAIR............. died 13 November 1882, at Ipswich, 82 years.
parents John BLAIR,   ......keeper,  and Jane DUNN
informant............... William KIPPEN, grandson, Ipswich
buried 14th November.............. Ipswich Cemetery
born........... Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland.    about 36 years in Queensland  (26?...unclear)
married.......... Lanarkshire Scotland, age 18, William BLAIR
children.....living James 54yrs, Elizabeth 52yrs, Gordon 50 years.

and

*** Gordon Blair no known birth registration on ScotlandsPeople. Died 23 Aug 1900 on DC. Where born - Glasgow Lanark Scotland been in Qld 40yrs. name of Father John Blair - Hotelkeeper - name of Mother Jane Dun. Was married Brisbane Stanley Qld age 24 yrs to whom Julia Droughton.

Informant: J.W. Blair son Ipswich.

*** Now a missing piece of the puzzle as supplied by the Informant. Age at death:
66yrs 11 months 4 days!!! How precise is that. It is a true fact of his birth date as known and celebrated each and every year supplied by the Chief Justice of Qld.

I tried to backdate it to find the actual date in my Excel program and it only calculates dates from 1900 onwards. I have downloaded addins that said it could but they didn't work and finally I found one... He was born on Thursday 19 Sep 1833 according to the son and Chief Justice of Qld.
.....

So any 'lie' here on Gordon's dc is being told not by Gordon, not by Gordon's widow, but by their son James, who decades later became the Chief Justice of Qld, and who was, at the time of Gordon's death, a barrister and considering running for election as a member of Qld's parliament.

So, there was no impediment re any lack of evidence of the registrations of the sons' births....   ;)     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Blair_(Australian_judge)

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #134 on: Monday 10 April 17 03:23 BST (UK) »
I'm getting more & more confused!!

Is there a chance of info. not concluded early doors in the research of this family from e.g. the g/parents of the living person who's tree this is?

Has everything been matched up conclusively from those g/parents or even the parents back the way?

Where names & similar occupations in same towns can be mixed up especially if mother's maiden names are not given, is it possible there may have been a mix-up early on?

Maybe a double check would do no harm?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"