Major Denis Bingham's son William birth information

[Bob Queensland]

You are quite right, seems Newbrook house famous for the Lord Clanmorris side of the family is located north of hollymount, but there are several references to Newbrook and Newbrook House; I was interested in the Newbrook House on the 1830 map in the county of Newbrook a few miles north of Leitrim but the actual family residence for Maj Denis's father Henry Bingham is still confusing to say the least; yes more questions but thank you, all the merrier, have a great xmas guys

[hanes teulu]

Hi guys, as yet I have found no further proof of William's mother, ie Major Denis wife or mistress. Denis and William have numerous quotes in court and newspapers as being father and illegitament son but I fail to understand Denis not listing a mother for any of the children.

Extract from the Mayo Constitution, 26 July 1853
Court Case - Savage v Bingham
" .....
Mr Walker addressed the court on behalf of his client**; at the conclusion of which address Mr Denis Bingham was produced - he proved the several documents connected with the case, his knowledge of the locality and his having received rent out of these lands, and have passed receipts for them.
To Mr Walker - The late Major Denis Bingham was never married; he was my grandfather; his daughter was married to my father, who was the son of the the second brother of Denis Bingham; my mother was daughter of the first son, and it is through him I claim my title as heir of Henry Bingham, the father of the Major; the Major was the third son."

** - Denis Bingham

[CSK]

Hello Bob and other Houston/Bingham researchers:
I understand that you are a descendant of Arthur Shaen Bingham, son of William Bingham and Maria Houston.  I am a descendant of Arthur Houston and Maria Crump.  I have DNA matches to descendants of Arthur Houston & Maria Crump's children, including:  George (1814-1905), James (?-1848), and Bridget.  I don’t have matches (yet) to some of their other children, including:  Maria who married your William Bingham.  Have you tested your DNA and have you uploaded it to any databases such as GEDMATCH or My Heritage?  I’d really enjoy testing your kit against mine and known Houston descendants to see if we are a match.  If others reading this thread have tested and are descendants of Binghams and Houstons I'd be interested to contact them too.

Thanks!
Colleen Kennedy

[Bob Queensland]

Hi Colleen
I have not as yet been DNA tested but will in the near future, my William's wife Maria apparently was the daughter of Arthur Houston of Drum but I never pursued the Houston line. Her other son Willy emigrated to Oz back in 1860s and I have had contact with the descendants in Melbourne and have copies of letters from Willy to his mother over ten years or so.
I will source a DNA test through My Heritage after we get through the usual rush at Xmas and we'll see what comes of it.
Hanes, it was of interest that the grandson a later Denis Bingham who resided at Bingham Castle and Binghamtown told the court that Major Denis never married, it would appear that his mother Anne may have been just as "legitimate" as my William?; Anyway have a great Xmas fellow researchers and again thanks for your input during these past few years. Bob from down under

[CSK]

Hello Bob,
Thanks for your speedy and informative reply.  I sincerely appreciate it.

As it happens, I have copies of letters from Maria Houston Bingham to her son William and grandson Richard in Australia.  But, I don't have letters from William to his mother, Maria, that you mentioned.  Perhaps we should communicate via email after Christmas? 

I am so pleased that you are getting your DNA tested.  I'm on My Heritage as well as Ancestry and Gedmatch, and am an avid amateur genetic genealogist.  So, perhaps we'll uncover a connection that will help you with your Binghams and me with my Houstons.

Merry Christmas (and no rush in responding).

Best,
Colleen Kennedy

[Bob Queensland]

Hi Colleen
I tried to send some photos but may have failed. One is of a memorial stone erected by your Maria Grump (widow) for Arthur Houston and two other (hard to read) Houston family members in the Cross Cemetery Bellmullet and an other Maria (Houston) Bingham in a buggy.
May have to send by email later. keep safe Bob

[CSK]

Hello Bob,
Thanks for your reply.  It would be wonderful if you could send both of those items to me via email - . I have heard about the monument but have never seen it.  Also, we can exchange the letters we both have to see if they are the same.  Thanks so much!  Colleen

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[CSK]

Hi,
I'm a bit late to the party, but I've been corresponding with Bob Bingham re: his Binghams, my Houstons, and other related families (possibly my Kennedys with Kelly and Geraghty).  I have also been in contact with a descendant of Dennis Bingham Gaughan.  I found the baptismal record for Dennis Bingham Gaughan, baptized 1 March 1898 with father listed as Denis Bingham and mother as Catherine Gaughan.  I'll PM you so I can send you a copy. 

[Pontchartrain53]

Hi Hallmark
Have you access to the other parts of the memorial (Deed) above. I am keen to read the settlement and how it affected the two sons, William (younger) and Arthur (eldest).
I was wondering whether it may have caused a split and William's relocation to Australia.
Thank you in advance
Bob

Hi Bob and everyone,
I have spent the last couple of hours reading this interesting thread, which I fell into while searching for information on my ancestor, Mary Shean, who married Henry Lowe Byrn/Byrnes/Burns at St. Peter's COI on Aungier St. in Dublin in September, 1816.
Associated families were Connor and Campbell. Henry Byrns was a lawyer or solicitor and lived across from St. Stephen's Green until Henry and Mary died rather young, and two sons and daughters emigrated to America.
Anyway, I found an article on Newspapers.com which I have not been able to snip, so I will transcribe it:
"IN THE LANDED (LATE INCUMBERED) ESTATES COURT, IRELAND. SALE on the 21st JUNE, 1860.
IN THE MATTER of the Estate of Arthur Shean Bingham,  Esq., Owner and Petitioner.
AUCTION,  in two lots  situate I the Barony of Erris. and County of Mayo, held as in the annexed Rental stated, viz.:
2 Lots. The Lands of Letterbeg. held as to one undivided modern in fee, and as to the otherunder leases for lives with convenant for perpetual renewal...
The Lands of Curraghbee East and West ,(part of), held as to one undivided moiety in fee and as to the other, under fee farm grant...
Dated this 7th day of May, 1860
C.E.DOBBS, Examiner.WM.M. MCCAY, Solicitor, having carriage of proceedings,  39, Westland Row."
 - The Freeman's Journal 24 May. 1860. Thu.
I hope it helps in your search in some way.