Major Denis Bingham's son William birth information

[Bob Queensland]

Hi Hallmark .. my mistake .. I had peerage give Christopher French St George to Anne but took it as John's daughter, have corrected my records now, my Denis's Anne married Henry's Robert Augustus (1st cousin) to maintain Bingham lineage at Bingham's Castle, shame he hadn't kept the lineage with my William.
Thanks … Thomas and Brown in Grafton Street Dublin was where my Robert John became a draper, probably near your coffee shop.

[Bob Queensland]

Many Binghams Marriages and Baptisms at St Peter's Dublin and funerals for my side at Protestant Church and graveyard … maybe old Cross with illegible headstones. Can't find Denis or William in any place.

[hallmark]

So when you visit Mayo don't tell people you are researching Binghams.... tell them you're researching your Kellys and Gerathys   

No interest whatsoever in "any of that Bingham lot"

It can be amazing what local people will tell you once they know you're not a fan of the Binghams! Get 2 or 3 locals in a pub telling you how bad they were and just leave them to it 

[hallmark]

Hi Amac
I did find a document on Denis Bingham Kelly's birth, witnessed by another Kelly, either older sister or mother.
I'll chase up a copy for you in the near future
Cheers
Bob

Yvonne Russell owns the copyright so am only posting part thereof!

Am sure Yvonne will not have a problem with this as they are photographed to help people researching family.




Michael Bingham Kelly

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/mt-jerome-65/target119.html


any relation??

[hallmark]

As I can't really be bothered trying to keep track of who is who in these generations anymore he's a "Nephew of Lord Clanmorris", whatever his name was around 1840's.



Richard Carey  MD of Weston, Newtownbarry (reverted to it's old name of Bunclody in 1952,
it was renamed Newtownbarry by James Barry Sheriff of Dublin 1577) married Elizabeth Browne
at Gorey on 16 Nov 1841.  She was the youngest daughter of the Rev Peter Browne, Dean of
Ferns.  It was a double wedding as her sister Catherine married Michael Bingham Kelly, a
nephew of Lord Clanmorris at the same time and place.

With this I'll sign off on the Binghams!

Good hunting.

[hallmark]

Sincere apologies to Karen Poff and June Bow for omitting that the above is attributed to both of you!

[Bob Queensland]

Hi Hallmark
Thanks for your time and effort … Good advice .. I was going to go to Mayo as a Smith but Kelly or Geraghty is a better cover.. again thanks heaps

[hallmark]

No problem.. you might as well have these before I delete them, no idea of if or where they might fit and not going to do my head in trying.



 Bingham, Henry Herbert Shaen, b. 22nd February, 1881, son of H.H. S Bingham/Helen Little,  ward of J. V. Stevenson, D.I., 4 Ravenhill Terrace, Belfast.  Served through the Boer War in Ulster Yeomanry.  South African Medal, 4 Bars.  Irish Swimming Championship (100 and 200 yards), 1901; holder of Ulster Records for 100 and 200 yards; appointed J.P. for Co. Mayo, 1905.  High Sheriff for Co. Mayo, 1919.  Landowner.  Address  Guildford, Surrey.

Went to same college as his brother, same address as  Sheelagh Mary Geraldine Shaen-Bingham who married James Hewat in 1934


I know no more tan what is posted.

You have the Bingham Kelly g/stone and his death cert shows his address in Dublin Alicia might be his daughter. He is someone's nephew so probably one of your lot.

See who registered Catherine's death etc etc

[amac1210]

Bob, enjoy the trip to Belmullet and Mayo. I hope to go some point these next few years, determined to see it for myself. Even for non-Binghams nerves can be sensitive - so much trauma from early 20th century in some ways. Castlebar also a HQ in a sense for some folk involved in the later Troubles. This is thereby recent history also. Honestly, my main interest would be to get a feeling for the Gaelic culture pre-existing all the sad violence. Belmullet has a very ancient history, going into the early Middle Ages.

Thanks for the details Hallmark, not sure at all who Michael Bingham Kelly is but it is interesting to see the marriage that must have occurred between the families there. I note that Anthony Kelly was Catholic, on 1911 census, which makes direct connections less likely perhaps.

I made some little progress earlier - there is no civil record for his 1869 marriage to Annie Carey but we do have a Church record. Parents not named, but a witness named Rose Kelly is. Anthony and Annie had a daughter Rose in 1889. I therefore think Rose must be a sister or the mother of Anthony. However, I can't locate any obvious civil records. I see a Rose who died aged 90 in 1932 but she was only Kelly by marriage and husband isn't named meaning I can't check out connection further with any ease. Wonder if the Rose on the Church record lived outside Belmullet?

Cheers,

Tony