Major Denis Bingham's son William birth information

[Bob Queensland]

Hi Dahal .... sorry but after reading attachment can't seem to find aspect you refer to

[dathai]

See reply 141 re Conversions

Dathai

[Bob Queensland]

Hi Dathai ... yes ..I will pencil Arthur with three sisters ... date 1855 would appear aligned to about twenty odd years old when compared to Arthur the brother born about 1830 .. maybe preparation for marriages .. thanks

[hanes teulu]

The parish registers for Belmullet can be found here   http://registers.nli.ie

There's an entry around Sep 1854 that reads "6th, The Rev'd Pat'k Malone, P P of Belmullet" which fits the newspaper item.

I have confirmed that conversion includes baptism and have rechecked Belmullet from 1848 - 1856. (began in '48 on basis the elder sisters would not have considered such a step while their father was alive). Cannot spot the name Bingham - though reading the lists is not easy. Suggest you double check and widen the search! The newspaper item refers to 6th Jan (1855)".

If the baptism were recorded would parents' names be included in these circumstances?

Another search option is to look for a Belmullet marriage. Unfortunately, the marriage records begin 1858 - which leaves a gap of 3 years into which a Miss Bingham marriage might easily have fallen.

[dathai]

Yes Hanes the priest would have recorded parents names in an adult baptism , i recently found a marriage in Bray for one of the wife's ancestor's but it was tough to make out her mothers name as the priest had crammed it up against one of the lines in the parent box on the marriage register i read it as Buckley from Chester so with her being English i thought to myself she might be protestant and went back through the Bray baptism register from the date of the marriage and found her at age 22 getting baptised a few weeks before her marriage and found her mother to be Burtill not Buckley.

see reply 10 here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=768506.msg6212753#msg6212753

[hallmark]

Trusting in the accuracy of the 1848 newspaper report of the death of William Bingham of Bayview , a "status" reflected in the newspaper marriage notice of his son Arthur Shean Bingham in 1854, very intrigued to spot

"CONVERSIONS
On the 6th inst. (the Feast of the Epiphany) Miss Bingham, third daughter of the late Mr William Bingham, solemnly abjured the errors of Protestantism and was received into the Catholic fold by the Rev. P. Malone at the town chapel, Belmullet. Miss Bingham's two eldest sisters were previously received into the Catholic Church ...".
(several newspaper reports January 1855)

 

Strengthens my hunch that Denis' wife was "ignored" on Pedigree because she was RC!! Children followed her faith?

Just a hunch.

[Bob Queensland]

Search may be a bit late ie 1855,  would have thought to find parents ... either births or baptisms and marriages of offspring .... looking for Maj Denis and his wife's name then births around 1790ish - 1805 to cover his offspring of several daughters and William, including marriages for same around 1810 - 1830, (his daughter Anne was married to Robert Augustus Bingham at St Peters in Dublin 27 Jul 1817 but his wife's name was not recorded if I remember correctly) ... finding Maj Denis or William's wives names is proving quite difficult....any ideas when or where Maj Denis may have been married ... I'm assuming 1790 -1800 to match Anne's birth (died 1881 @ 81 yrs) ... again thanks guys

[Bob Queensland]

Hi Hallmark ... there was a real hate relationship between Maj Denis and RC Rev Lyons through to as least the late 1830s especially the Dublin court case in 1833 including William's participation, I would think Denis would not have married a RC as he also promoted his own chapel of Church of Ireland and reluctantly allowed Lyons to have ground or accommodation in Binghamstown at the time.Is there any newspaper records of Denis's death through shooting incident 1842.... maybe a reference to a widow

[hanes teulu]

Dathai,
Thanks for the response.
The reason I asked the question about recording parents' names related to -
(a) they were Protestant
(b) the father (William) was deceased

It's possible Miss Bingham's details are recorded but simply somewhere in the register, not chronoligically. ie 6th Jan 1855.