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Help Desperately Needed to knock down massive brick wall!!
« on: Tuesday 04 April 17 20:10 BST (UK) »
Hi guys!

Looking for suggestions or help as this one is turning me grey!!

I'm looking to travel back from my 3 x Great Grandfather, William Ambrose. His surname is causing me massive problems! I've grown up with it as Cutlan. My 2 x GGFather was Cutlan. However, on William's marriage in 1876 it's Kirtland. On his death registry it's Cutland.

SO.... Ive done a free BMD search of ALL William Ambrose born between 1850 and 1860. Nothing. Tried again with just William A. Nothing....

I'm going mad 😂

All I have from marriage certificate is his father's name was Job...

Anyone bored and wants a go or anyone got any more suggestions I can try?! Please!
Prosser - Worcestshire, Newport, Pontypool (http://myprosserfamily.tribalpages.com)
Rees - Glamorganshire, Pontypool
Morgan - Pontypool & Trelleck (http://morganspontypool.tribalpages.com)
Buckley - Tipperary, Waterford, Newport, Pontypool
Ryan - Newport & Pontypool
Jeffreys - Cardiff & Somerset
Martin - Cardiff & Somerset
Perkins - Cardiff, Cambridgeshire
Cutlan - Cardiff, Leicester, Yorkshire

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Re: Help Desperately Needed to knock down massive brick wall!!
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 20:13 BST (UK) »
Where, please?

Bev
Weedon - Hertfordshire and W. Australia
Herbertson, Congalton, Paterson - Scotland
Reed, Elmer - Hunts.
Branson - Bucks. and Birmingham
Warren, Ball, Jones - Birmingham
Fuller, Bourne, Sheepwash - Kent
Brittain - Beds. and W. Australia

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Re: Help Desperately Needed to knock down massive brick wall!!
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 20:43 BST (UK) »

Was his marriage at Cardiff Dec qtr 1876 (William Ambrose Kirtland)

Remember not everyone could read + write back then...so name written as pronounced.

Jackie
Dudley Worcs:Ellis Durkin Oakley Rich Smith
Baggot Saunders Turner Williams Hobbs
Harts Hill: Baggot Wright

Tipton:Whitehouse (boatman) Timmins
Yorkshire:Littlewood Wilcockson
Derbyshire:Wilcockson

Derby Belper:Spencer
Herefordshire Brampton Bryan:-Turner

Worcs. Hereford. Gloucs.
Hodgetts




Radnorshire: Meredith
Bristol Somerset: Box

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Re: Help Desperately Needed to knock down massive brick wall!!
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 20:51 BST (UK) »
Hi along with the marriage in Cardiff, did they have a son William Ambrose KUTLAND Sept qtr 1881 Cardiff 11a 309 mmn Baker
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Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: Help Desperately Needed to knock down massive brick wall!!
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 21:01 BST (UK) »
Hi again, ok Mary Jane CUTLEN remarries a Thomas Hill Dec qtr 1889 Cardiff 11a 545 3 CUTLAN stepchildren Annie 11 Wiliam A 9 Richard H 7
Census Ref RG12/4403/135/9
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Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: Help Desperately Needed to knock down massive brick wall!!
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 21:06 BST (UK) »
Website: http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~towcesterfamilies/genealogy/
Towcester - anything, any time
Cheshire - Lambert, Houghland, Birtwisle
Liverpool - Platt, Cunningham, Ditton
London - Notley, Elsom, Billett
Oxfordshire - Hitchcock, Smith, Leonard, Taunt
Durham - Hepburn, Eltringham
Berwickshire - Guthrie, Crawford
Somerset - Taylor (Bath)
Gloucestershire - Verrinder, Colborn
Dorset - Westlake

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Re: Help Desperately Needed to knock down massive brick wall!!
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 21:17 BST (UK) »
A sad end, reported in the Western Mail, 24 May 1883
DEATH FROM LOCK-JAW AT CARDIFF.
A man named William Cutland died at the Cardiff Infirmary on Wednesday morning from lock-jaw, which had resulted from some injuries he sustained to one of his hands while at work in one of the Rumney Moor brickworks a few weeks previously. He had had the wounded hand dressed two or three times, and had been residing at his house, Bailey-back, Rumney, when he became alarmingly ill. He was then conveyed to the Infirmary, where, as stated, he died from lock-jaw on Wednesday.

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Re: Help Desperately Needed to knock down massive brick wall!!
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 21:53 BST (UK) »
Hi all!

Thank you for all your replies! I've managed to trace all the above, everything from his marriage in 1876.

It was the death notice I found that let.me trace them to Bailey Bach cottages in 1881.... surname written as Cattland  on that one!!

But I'm glad you reminded me of that actually so I can go again from that census that he was born in Leicestershire.  There is a death entry for a Job Kirkland in Leicestershire in 1857 so that helps a bit.

Fresh search of Leicestershire again I think!!!!
Prosser - Worcestshire, Newport, Pontypool (http://myprosserfamily.tribalpages.com)
Rees - Glamorganshire, Pontypool
Morgan - Pontypool & Trelleck (http://morganspontypool.tribalpages.com)
Buckley - Tipperary, Waterford, Newport, Pontypool
Ryan - Newport & Pontypool
Jeffreys - Cardiff & Somerset
Martin - Cardiff & Somerset
Perkins - Cardiff, Cambridgeshire
Cutlan - Cardiff, Leicester, Yorkshire

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Re: Help Desperately Needed to knock down massive brick wall!!
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 04 April 17 22:06 BST (UK) »
The Job who died in 1857 was only 24.

   
KIRKLAND, JOB    Age   24 
GRO Reference: 1857  M Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 07A  Page 150

Is the above likely to be William's father?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire