SMALL - What is this place on a baptism in Moulin?

[Liviani]

Also found this.

http://catalogue.nrscotland.gov.uk/nrsonlinecatalogue/details.aspx?reference=GD16%2f20%2f22&st=1&tc=y&tl=n&tn=n&tp=n&k=small+airlie&ko=a&r=&ro=s&df=&dt=&di=y

Had a few Smalls in my tree in Airlie, Angus around Kirriemuir so potentially somewhere else to go with this. The good thing about a family like this is that there are SO many records available for different people.

Thing is the Smalls I know about in Airlie are much later than 1611. However we know that the Smalls were landowners so I'd imagine a connection anyway with this.

[Rosinish]

What does "life until safe custoy" mean? Well the "until safe" part at least? And "not a fit object for punishment"? Ill health? Mentally ill?

I was being discreet 

I think "life until safe custody" may mean until they think he's okay for parole & of no harm to anyone while out on parole?

Someone with more knowledge will put us right on that though.

I was actually trying to find something in the way of historics when I found that 

Annie

[Liviani]

What does "life until safe custoy" mean? Well the "until safe" part at least? And "not a fit object for punishment"? Ill health? Mentally ill?

I was being discreet 

I think "life until safe custody" may mean until they think he's okay for parole & of no harm to anyone while out on parole?

Someone with more knowledge will put us right on that though.

I was actually trying to find something in the way of historics when I found that 

Annie

I tend to just say things as I find them. 

That's pretty shocking though, never encountered anything untoward in my tree before now. I have a feeling this guy is probably connected somewhere along the line. I will post if I see anything when I next sit down to check SP or elsewhere.

I think you're probably right with the parole thing though, I'll see what else I can find.

This is getting better by the minute.

[Rosinish]

These records look to have been done by OCR (Optical Character Recognition)?

"Contract of sale between James, Lord Ogiluy, (Ogilvy) and James, Master of Ogiluy,(Ogilvy) on the one part and William Small, brother to Patrick Small, portioner of Cwpargrainge, (Cupargrainge) on the other part whereby said Lord dispones to said William 6 acres of land of the burgh in barony of Kethik (?) maybe Kettins? lying in the Baitschailhauche (?) of Cwpar. (Cupar) Keremuir, (Kirriemuir) Airlie"

Interesting though.

It's great when you find these things, means everything regardless of what it is we find as it starts to paint a picture to connect people with their lives.
That's why people think I'm boring or bored is what I should say!! 

Annie

[Isabel H]

The National Library of Scotland has maps showing parishes:
http://maps.nls.uk/os/one-inch-2nd-colour/index.html
Tarvie in Moulin parish is on sheet 55.

Gazetteer for Scotland has some info about it
http://www.scottish-places.info/towns/townfirst1133.html

[Rosinish]

Good links Isabel,

Those maps on National Library are brill.

Annie

[Liviani]

These records look to have been done by OCR (Optical Character Recognition)?

"Contract of sale between James, Lord Ogiluy, (Ogilvy) and James, Master of Ogiluy,(Ogilvy) on the one part and William Small, brother to Patrick Small, portioner of Cwpargrainge, (Cupargrainge) on the other part whereby said Lord dispones to said William 6 acres of land of the burgh in barony of Kethik (?) maybe Kettins? lying in the Baitschailhauche (?) of Cwpar. (Cupar) Keremuir, (Kirriemuir) Airlie"

Interesting though.

It's great when you find these things, means everything regardless of what it is we find as it starts to paint a picture to connect people with their lives.
That's why people think I'm boring or bored is what I should say!! 

Annie

Seems like you're right with the OCR otherwise it's terrible spelling back then. Very very interesting. I can see myself engrossed in all of this for days to come now. I'm not going to get anything done! 

Thanks for all these wonderful links and finds Annie. Fantastic.

Jill

The National Library of Scotland has maps showing parishes:
http://maps.nls.uk/os/one-inch-2nd-colour/index.html
Tarvie in Moulin parish is on sheet 55.

Gazetteer for Scotland has some info about it
http://www.scottish-places.info/towns/townfirst1133.html

These maps are fantastic. Very very interesting. Will be saving these to have a look.

Thank you!

Jill.

That site you found is an absolute GEM Annie! It's about the history of the area, various photographs of people (including the Smalls), the landscape etc. And there is even a family Scrapbook of the Smalls, it's a fantastic find. There is something about the Robertsons also!

Here are links to various relevant sections. Brilliant!

http://www.mountblairarchive.org/content/tag/dirnanean

http://www.mountblairarchive.org/content/tag/tarvie

http://www.mountblairarchive.org/content/tag/kindrogan

I've noticed when casually browsing SP that a few generations of Smalls in the area have married a Robertson lady.

This is a description of the scrapbook;

This scrapbook contains various articles on people from the Perthshire area, including Dirnanean and Kindrogan, but mainly based around Dirnanean and Kindrogan. It belonged to Johan Small Turnbull. She was a daughter of Patrick Small and Amelia Rattray, and the sister of James Small, Laird of Dirnanean.

This is a golden find for me! Very very happy.

[Rosinish]

Sorry, didn't notice your edit 

Glad it's of great interest.

Will keep you busy for a while 

Annie

[Liviani]

"I've found an absolute gem of a site. It's about the history of the area, various photographs of people (including the Smalls), the landscape etc. And there is even a family Scrapbook of the Smalls
, it's a fantastic find. There is something about the Robertsons also!"

Please share link, sounds a great find!

Annie

I had to edit the post to correct my mistake. It was actually on the same site that you linked earlier regarding Tarvie House. I had totally forgotten where it had come from, sorry. I've corrected it now. The links should be there undernearth.

Here is a link to the Scrapbook;

http://www.mountblairarchive.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Small-Scrapbook-Scan.pdf

Here is the starting website; 

http://www.mountblairarchive.org

It's brilliant. Thank you!

Also, I want to say that in this scrapbook there are snippets of Smalls mentioned in Dundee, Broughty Ferry, Arbroath and one old lady died in Bervie. So, obviously they did spread out a bit so if anyone has any SMALLS in these areas, they could be distant relatives, otherwise why did the daughter of Amelia Rattray and Patrick Small include them. Something to ponder certainly!