SMALL - What is this place on a baptism in Moulin?

[Liviani]

Hi all,

Got a few ancestors with the name of 'Small'. Most of these lived and worked in the following parishes in Angus; Glenisla, Airlie, Glamis and eventually the town of Forfar from the period 1800 - 1907.

On trying to go further back in the records I'm coming across more Smalls (particularly the name Leonard Small which features heavily in my tree) in Perthshire. Upon googling Perthshire and Angus I noticed that the boundaries often changed previous to 1890. The locations of many of my Smalls in Angus (Forfarshire) were relatively close to what is now Perthshire. Particularly the locations of them in Glenisla. So I'm a bit unclear where to go from here due to the uncertainty of Parish boundaries and if I have the right branch of Smalls. I know there was a more famous branch of Smalls in Perthshire that owned land in the 1700s. Unclear if my Smalls are connected at this stage as I can't seem to get back far enough at the moment.

Does anyone have any maps or records that relate to the Parish boundaries? Or was it a case of them being quite unclear in rural locations at this time? I'm coming across a few Leonard Smalls that were born in Kirkmichael and some in Moulin Parish.

In particular looking for Leonard Small's father. Leonard Small married an Isabella Hardy in Airlie in 1824. He is potentially the same Leonard Small that married a Jannet McKenzie in 1808 in Glenisla. I notice that the Glenisla (Angus) and Kirkmichael Parishes bordered each other.

Thanks all.

[Liviani]

Update:

So I've had a look on SP with all of the previous information I have and found that my 4x Great-Grandfather is a Leonard Small baptised 30/06/1773 to a Patrick Small and a Margaret Robertson in Moulin Parish.

I can't quite make out the place name in this parish however. Can anyone work this out perhaps



Something like Farvie or Jarvie

Disregard much of my previous post as I've managed to find more info out about Leonard and Patrick.

From what I can fine on SP here are some of the other children Patrick and Margaret had, if anyone is looking into this family at all.

There are 2 I am unsure about that I will add at the end.

Anne b. 1771 Moulin
Leonard b. 1773 Moulin (my direct ancestor)
Alexander b. 1775 Moulin
See below
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Charles b. 1780 Moulin
Patrick b. 1782 registered in both Kirkmichael and Moulin

The two in question are;

Girsael  b. 3rd May 1777 to Patrick Small and a Robertson in Moulin.

John b. 25th December 1777 to Patrick Small and Elspeth Robertson in Kirkmichael.

I don't believe the names Elspeth and Margaret are interchangeable? Making John unrelated. Unsure at this point.

Also Girsael is a very odd name. No idea if it's male of female.

Thanks.

[Rosinish]

Hi Liviani,

Is it possible you can post another snippet (larger) of a different part of the doc. for letter formation comparison please?

Annie

[Rosinish]

I wonder if it's Tarvie?

Annie

[Rosinish]

Hmm,

Found a map with a Tarvie in Moulin but looks as though it wouldn't have been inhabited....middle of nowhere 

http://ncap.org.uk/frame/8-1-2-2-38-227

Annie

[Liviani]

Hi Liviani,

Is it possible you can post another snippet (larger) of a different part of the doc. for letter formation comparison please?

Annie

Sorry, will sort out a larger snippet no problem now.

[Liviani]

Here is a snippet of the document. It's so cramped and messy I have to say!

I've noticed a similar place near the top right mentioned. There are a few places near Pitlochry that I see, Edradour etc.
I'll investigate Tarvie on old maps and see if there were once more bulidings around. I have access to some older maps through an educational account, but the years are quite restrictive. I think that place mentioned at the top is potentially the same one though.

[Liviani]

Snippet from a map from 1860, was the earliest I could get.

There a few buildings dotted around then with Tarvie there also. So it probably is that going by the writing.

Honestly though, my heart has been in my mouth because this area is SO close to Enochdhu, Kindrogan and Dirnanean House.

What are the chances... ?  Am I related to the Smalls of Dirnanean.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirnanean_House

[Istrice]

I think Rosinish was spot on with Tarvie.

The attached 1823 map (http://maps.nls.uk/view/74400161) shows a property by this name some few miles to the NE of Moulin.  Follow the road from Moulin to the first junction and you will find Tarvie at the junction, with Tarvie Mill further to the east.
On more modern maps, Tarvie is shown as being almost equidistant between Moulin and Kirkmichael whilst travelling along the road between these villages.

Regards

Istrice