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bevan boys WW2
« on: Thursday 28 July 05 08:22 BST (UK) »
Interested in finding out if there is a register for the Beven Boys during WW2?
My Dad was a coalminer when WW2 broke out.He was not allowed to join the forces , but had to stay on in the mines to keep the fuel going for the war.Little has been said about these unsung heroes.Their conditions were hard,many of them not seeing daylight for months at a time.
Would like any info that might be available.
He was at the Cannock Chase no. 8 pits in Staffordshire UK.
ARTHRELL
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Re: bevan boys WW2
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 August 05 17:35 BST (UK) »
Hello Arthrell
I just dropped by occupation to pop a post in and saw you post about the Bevin boys.Heard about them when i was young.Strangely enough My Grandfather was born in Cannock chase.And my G.Grandfather worked off and on as a clerk in the mines in later life.Never bothered to find out which one though.As i have done a lot of research in Stafford i know there are museums of various kinds. I think i know which one can help but i will have to have a scout round,because I've forgotten the name and where it was.will pop back later.

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 August 05 18:29 BST (UK) »
Hi again
It was the museum in Cannock itself they have a mining museum.I have just tried the website to see if it mentions your Beven boys.Unfortunately i got a German sex site that wont go away.I have sent off a couple emails to inform them and to find out if it's my computer or not.Try the site yourself,i cant give you the address can i .So the email address is
museum {--at--} cannockchasedc.gov.uk They are very helpfull.
good luck

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Re: bevan boys WW2
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 10 August 05 11:32 BST (UK) »
Dear Celia...thankyou for bringing a smile to my face this evening ;D
I will try the site in a second.
My Dads family were from Cannock Chase and in approx 1902 they emmigrated on masse as coalminers and mine workers,to Canada,Novascotia.Several other famililies also went from Cannock Chase and chase terrace.Somewhere i have a fantastic book,written by a gentleman who was a lad at cannock chase in the 1920's.It details the area as it was and even mentions my Dad and his family living there.My Grandad and grandma returned to the UK for a holiday from canada,but WW1 broke out and they never returned.
Well I am off now...hope the German sex site has gone away!Dawn ;)
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Re: bevan boys WW2
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 August 05 11:33 BST (UK) »
Me again...I have sent an email asking for info on the Bevan boys and on Cannnock chase miners.Thanks again Celia.Dawn
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Re: bevan boys WW2
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 August 05 11:42 BST (UK) »
Hi there
       I worked in the coal mines for a while in my younger days and in the south yorkshire pits a bevin boy was always regarded as something less than a miner, even 20 or so tears after the war.
       Now because coal was a nessesity for the war effort, mr bevin brought about an act whereby a concientious objector was able to contribute to the country by working in one of the industries deemed nessesary to the country.
        many of these boys were genuine objectors but the stigma of being a bevin boy held for many many years.
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 17 August 05 11:51 BST (UK) »
Denn . I had not realised that conscientious objectors were drafted into the Bevin Boys scheme.There is not a lot of information about them at all.
My Dad was not an objector.He was already working down the pits as a teenager so when the war broke out he was one of those chosen to stay down.
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 17 August 05 12:45 BST (UK) »
       To the best of my knowledge if he was already working down the pit he wouldn't have been a bevan boy, I definately remember the miners in south yorkshire at least making a point of letting us know who were the bevan boys.
Mind you that may only be a local interpretation but I will try to chase up some more info'
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell

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Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 17 August 05 13:10 BST (UK) »
here ya are
Bevan Boys - Down the Mines
By RAF Cosford Roadshow

People in story: Ronald Griffan
Location of story: South Wales & Midlands




In 1944 I received my call up papers much to the dismay of my boss Dick Small. He got onto the authorities to try and get me exempt from call up, pleading I was employed on important war work. He also told them I was in a play which funds were for war charities. To my surprise I was given an exemption until the play had finished its run.
In 1943 the government had panicked because the country had become very short of coal. Young miners had either been called up or gone to work in munitions factories for better pay. Emergency meetings were called in the House and Ernest Bevin then Minister of Labour put a proposal that a ballot to be drawn conscripting those boys with a certain letter after their name be called up for the mines. They became known as Bevin Boys of which I was about to become one. In May 1944 I travelled to Newport Monmouthshire. A packed train dropped me at Blackwood station where I met up with other Bevin Boys and taken to a special hostel for training. We were housed in old army huts the long dormitories our sleeping accommodation for the next four weeks. Lads and men had been recruited from all over the country. Most good humoured and jolly, so I felt I was in for a happy time. With meagre rations at home, it was a treat to have a cooked breakfast and a nice evening meal at the hostel. During the mornings we had lectures from people from the pit management and in the afternoons we did manual work such as stripping bark from pit props. To break us in we visited other pits in the area of Newport and Oakdale.

Each day down the mine got worse I found it hard to adapt to the conditions. The stale air caused a burning sensation in my lungs and the heat and heavy work drained all my strength away. One morning I was working away heaving coal onto the conveyer. When something told to move my position. Lunging forward feeling something was about to happen I almost fell over a split second later there was a tremendous crash followed by clouds of grey dust and a great pile of rubble. Almost a goner I could have been underneath it. I secretly wrote to other collieries in the midlands hoping they would accept me on a transfer I received only one reply from the Earl of Dudley’s Baggeridge Colliery near Wolverhampton. They would accept me provided I got permission from my local National Service Officer. I wrote to him and was granted an interview at his office at Port Talbot. One afternoon returning to my digs I saw a small buff envelope propped up against the salt cruet on opening a card filled in by bold writing fell into my hand. It informed me my transfer to the midland mine had been granted and that my new duties at Baggeridge to commence the following Monday.

I was there till the war ended but had to carry on in the mine waiting for a demob number to be issued to us Bevin Boys. The government having forced us “boys” into the mines in 1943 turned a deaf ear when it came to releasing us as they were still very short of coal. One minister was heard to say “O Bevin Boys” they are not worth bothering about. However I was finally given my release number but not until October 1948 three years after the war.

On October 3” 1948 I went down the pit for the last time. After the shift I had to collect my cards and see the manager. He was very friendly and asked me to stay on Yo” bin a good worker” he said and we all thought the world of you” I was puzzled I had never seen him under ground but he must have known everyone and what was going on.
I thanked for the offer but I had my own plans I had been offered a scholarship as a full time student at the Birmingham Drama School, Queens College. He wished me luck and I came away exhilarated although with a tinge of sadness. I had worked with some fine men in the mines with a world of their own creating an atmosphere of comradeship, jollity and sense of well being. The like of which I never have experienced again.
Ronald Griffin.

full story at following site

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/ww2/A3503152
Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell

South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire

Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol