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Offline Annette7

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Re: Patience Chapman
« Reply #18 on: Friday 17 March 17 11:03 GMT (UK) »
Groom - this does indeed seem to be the right Patience from a travelling family.   Yesterday OP left a comment on a 10 year old post and was advised by Treetotal that she was unlikely to get a response.

Janna59 responded to that at 08.06 this morning but has made no comment here where lots of activity has been happening on her behalf!!

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Re: Patience Chapman
« Reply #19 on: Friday 17 March 17 11:23 GMT (UK) »
According to the 1911 census, Joseph and Kate with 1905 Patience are in Suffolk, so that seems a bit less likely. However, I have found a family in Deptford (Kent) with a Katherine Patience born 1903 and a hoard of kids plus Chapman grandparents. Grandma C is Katherine, father is Charles John, mother isn't home that night.

CHAPMAN, KATHERINE  PATIENCE, mmn BARTON, GRO Reference: 1903  J Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 01D  Page 1005

I believe that this has strong possibilities as I looked at this one last night and the Head of house, Joseph was a Hawker and the family were living in a caravan...Jan says on her other posts that the family were travellers.
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Re: Patience Chapman
« Reply #20 on: Friday 17 March 17 12:02 GMT (UK) »
Treetotal - the family you mention are not living in a caravan on the last census, nor is Charles John a Hawker - he was a Boot Maker and Repairer and they lived in a house!!!   Think you must have mixed 2 families up somehow.   The birth you state for Katherine Patience - she was daughter of Charles John - and the Patience who was dau. of Joseph and Kate was born 23/10/1904, baptised 1905, and married a Joseph Trigwell.   The latter were in Sussex on last census, not Suffolk.   Neither of these 2 girls is born in 1901 and OP's Patience.

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Re: Patience Chapman
« Reply #21 on: Friday 17 March 17 13:09 GMT (UK) »
I think you are mixing me up with CaroleW as I didn't give a birth date  ???

The original poster gave  a suggested birth date of 1901 but that's only a rough guess...Joseph and Kate are living in a caravan with patience born on 1905...this census was attached to the online tree with unmarried Patience Chapman with several children to Henry Waller..but it looks like they have the wrong census attached to that family...so just looking at all options.
I should have read the previous posts.

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