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Offline suzard

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Re: birth of William Perry
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 14 March 17 19:35 GMT (UK) »
this could possibly be Sarah's brother with an Ikeston connection?

1851
Bath St Ilkeston Derbys
John Perry lodger Unmarried Ironstone miner Chesterfield
in household of Alexander beardsley and family
HO107 2126 2105

1861
Bath St Ilkeston Derbys
John Perry head U 33 labourr mansfield Notts
Mary Langsdale U 32 Ashby de la Zouche Leics
RG9 2436 86 4

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Re: birth of William Perry
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 15 March 17 13:03 GMT (UK) »
hi, Everyone, I have no details of death, just the information that my cousin sent me.
The name is Perry. he also sent me a photo of my greatgrandfather born1870, in uniform mycousin
said that he served in REME in WW1 as a miner? I know its not part of the Perry saga . just adds to my confusion.
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Re: birth of William Perry
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 15 March 17 19:23 GMT (UK) »
who was your great grandfather??

maybe we could check backwards from him??

The marriage your cousin gave was for William Parry -not Perry

If Sarah was b Mansfield Notts then a more likely match is William Perry who married Alice ??

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Re: birth of William Perry
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 15 March 17 20:44 GMT (UK) »
I may have missed something here, but GEORGE THROOP definitely married SARAH PERRY at Old Brampton 17.01.1841...normally you could assume that this is the Bride's Parish..but not so in this case, she was not Baptised Old brampton.........entry states "From New Brampton"......
Bramptton St George (New Brampton) has CHARLES THROOPE baptised 25.11.1851 son of George (a Pot Turner) and Sarah..living at Brampton Moor...
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Re: birth of William Perry
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 15 March 17 21:00 GMT (UK) »
I don't know where you lot are looking.and struggling!!..1861 census George Troop..married to Sarah...five children..all born Brampton
Wife Sarah born MANSFIELD Notts 1820........

SARAH PERRY Baptised Mansfield Notts 17.05.1820...........daughter of WILLIAM PERRY and Alice..................
WILLIAM PERRY married ALICE EVANS at Mansfield 07.04.1820..............obviously in haste !!!
I suggest that  William Perry might have been born in Nottingham 1785.....................

This is only a suggestion..WILLIAM PERRY baptised St mary Bulwell nottingham 23.02.1785 son of George and Elizabeth.......
by the way..Sarah was one of at least three children of William an Alice........
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Re: birth of William Perry
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 16 March 17 04:02 GMT (UK) »
On FreeREG the 1841 Marriage has Sarahs Father as a Farrier not Farmer, mistranscibed?
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Re: birth of William Perry
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 16 March 17 08:17 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Trish

From Notts FHS CD
Children born to William & Alice

Sarah 17.5. 1820 abode Toothill Lane father Farrier
Anne 6.3. 1822 abode Leeming Lane father Farrier
Elizabeth 26.5. 1824 abode Back Lane father Farrier
John 11.5. 1828 abode Stockwell Gate father Labourer
Helena 6.2. 1831 abode Rosemary Lane father Labourer

All baptised at Mansfield St Peters

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Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper
Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw
Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones
Warwickshire - Russon
Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw.
Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett

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Re: birth of William Perry
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 16 March 17 12:09 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Derbysderek on Wednesday 15 March 17 21:00 GMT (UK)
I don't know where you lot are looking.and struggling!!..1861 census George Troop..married to Sarah...five children..all born Brampton
Wife Sarah born MANSFIELD Notts 1820........

SARAH PERRY Baptised Mansfield Notts 17.05.1820...........daughter of WILLIAM PERRY and Alice..................
WILLIAM PERRY married ALICE EVANS at Mansfield 07.04.1820..............obviously in haste !!!
I suggest that  William Perry might have been born in Nottingham 1785.....................

This is only a suggestion..WILLIAM PERRY baptised St mary Bulwell nottingham 23.02.1785 son of George and Elizabeth.......
by the way..Sarah was one of at least three children of William an Alice........

I posted information about Sarah and her parents being William & Alice and other information in relpies 7, 8 & 9

the reason we are (as you put it "struggling" ) is because  clivealbert has not so far given an indication that his cousin's information may not be the correct couple - so I have attempted to find William Perry(Parry?) who married Lucy Robinson in later years so maybe clivealbert could rule him out -but have not had any joy yet.
I also think Sarah born to William Perry and Alice (evans?) was one of at least 6 children -and William was possibly deceased before 1841 -Alice and some of the children in Mansfield Workhouse - and Alice is missing in 1851 -youngest daughter still in the workhouse

I am awaiting clivealbert giving details of his greatgrandfather b 1870 -so we can work backwards

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Re: birth of William Perry
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 16 March 17 13:24 GMT (UK) »
Possibly youngest child of William & Alice
Harriet Perry
baptism 8 Jun 1839
All Saints Derby
parents William & Alice

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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