Eliza Madeley - Dudley - 1873, father probably James Madeley est 1856 COMPLETE

[amykittin]

Hi, I have come across a bit of a block in my research. According to the census information and birth index Eliza Madeley was born 1873 in Dudley, however I've very few leads on parents.

According to her marriage certificate, her father was a deceased miner by the name of James Madeley. When I have looked for information on him, all I can find is a Staffordshire news article dated 1874 that at aged 18 there was someone of that name and occupation who got into trouble with the law. In a second marriage, it puts her maiden name down as Pierce/Pearce (probably step father) but I can't find a death index anyway to indicate when James died, or if it was a bit of a sore point and because he disappeared they just marked him as deceased.

I am guessing that the best name to go from for the 1881 census is Pierce/Pearce (script hard to read) but there is no information on the mother at all so that is pure guess work.

Any recommendations on next steps? I live overseas so I can't exactly call into local records offices for other information.

Thanks

[crisane]

On the GRO index there is a birth for an Eliza Madeley June 1/4 1873 vol 6c page 126 registration district Dudley, mother's maiden name Nicklin

Edited to add
I can't find a Nicklin/Madeley marriage

[Annette7]

Also a Thomas Edward Madeley birth Mar.1876 Dudley, again mmn is Nicklin.

Annette

[Jomot]

Likely marriage: Eliza Nicklin 1872 Dudley Jan-Mar qtr Volume 6c Page 31.  On the same page is James Madelin or Madeline

[amykittin]

Thanks, the maiden name is a definite help, as are the other replies for marriage and potential siblings. It's the script that makes things ever so slightly tricky, but I can't add attachments on here with the ipad, when I get to work I will see if I can upload a picture of the maiden name of Eliza that has been used on the marriage certificate.

Cheers muchly I have a lot more to go on now!

[Jomot]

A little more on the marriage, which was at St. Edmund's, Dudley.  James & Eliza were both 19

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJLK-QL3

[Jomot]

Possibly coincidental, but there is a marriage in Dudley in 1895 between a James Madelin & Rebecca Alsopp. 

In 1901 he claims to be 40 but by 1911 has aged to 55, putting him close to the birth year of the James who married Eliza.

1901: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS76-2YR

[amykittin]

The Nicklin name has opened up a barrel thanks, I have now confirmed a census for James at aged 15 resident in Dudley and a coal miner so definitely the right line.

A remarriage would make sense if Eliza was giving Pierce/Pearce or something that looks very like that as a prior name, it would indicate the marriage finished and they both found other partners.

Thank you all so much for your help, the birth index on ancestry only gives the location not the mothers maiden name on the information
I found.

[Jomot]

The new GRO index includes mother's maiden names.  You will need to register first (free) but it's a fantastic new resource:

www.gro.gov.uk