BURBAGE Family in Melksham

[shirclo]

Is anyone researching the BURBAGE family from Melksham?   

My GrGrGrGrandparents were WILLIAM & SARAH BURBAGE nee STEVENS.
BIVRI-2 Says they married 28 Apr 1835 in Melksham.

I think his parents were ELIAS & JOANNA BURBAGE but I'm trying to track down their previous marriages.

Any help would be very welcome.                 Regards,   Shirley.

[researcher1234]

Hi Shirley, an  Elias Burbage married Sarah Morris 25 Dec 1821 in Melsham and an Elias Burbage married a Ruth Deveril 18 Jun 1831 in Melksham. Burbage is not in my tree, but hope it helps.

Steve

[AngelaR]

Hi Shirley

I had a look on the microfiche for Melksham Parish records and found the banns and actual marriage for Elias Burbidge and Diana Parsons, 26 December 1808. I checked both the banns and the marriage and they definitely said 'Diana'. However, looking at the baptisms, I found -

Apr 8th 1810 Ann daughter of Elias and Joanna Burbidge
Feb 2nd 1812 Thomas son of Elias and Joanna Burbidge
15 May 1814 William son of Elias and Joanna Burbidge (your William?)
(at this point my eyes gave up so there may be others....)

I double checked the deaths and marriages between 1808 and 1810 and there was no Diana Burbidge death or Elias Burbidge remarriage. There appear to be no other Burbage/Burbidge contenders in Melksham at this period, so I think it has to be your family.

If you want, I'll see if I can find a baptism record for Elias or Diana/Joanna tomorrow (can't do too much fiche reading at any one time  )

What I found really exciting was that the marriage between William and Diana/Joanna was witnessed by my ggg grandfather so they could have been friends or relatives 

Hope this helps

Angela

[shirclo]

Thank you sooooo much for your replies.

In the BIVRI-2, I've found the marriage of Diana & Elias and also a marriage of an ELIAS BURBIDGE & JOANNA TUCK at St James's, Trowbridge 9 Jan 1811. Both parties were said to have been previously married. I have a possible christening for Elias 25 Sep 1791 in Melksham, the son of Charles & Jane.

I also found a marriage of a JOANNA SMALL to ROBERT TUCK 2 Oct 1791 in Melksham. I think Joanna may have been christened 9 Aug 1778  in Melksham, daughter of Thomas Small.

If they are the correct Elias & Joanna, there is a possible 13 year age gap or Elias wasn't christened until he was older than an infant. His burial may give his age.

My gg grandmother was JOANNA BURBIDGE, born 29 July 1841, in Melksham to William & Sarah and went on to have a son called Thomas (my grandad).
If I can discover a burial of Diana, it may all fall into place.

  In the 1841 census, I found an Elias aged about 40 & Ruth Burbidge aged about 35 in Melksham, so I think they are the Elias & Ruth that  Researcher1234 discovered. It helps a lot for elimination purposes. I don't know whose son he was, but no doubt there will be a connection.

Is a printout of the microfiche registers a possibility? I would be very happy to send your expenses etc. If not, it's great to have the info.
What was your ggg grandfather's name, Angela?
Once again, sincere thanks,      Shirley.

[AngelaR]

Hi Shirley

In view of what you've found I went back and checked the registers for Diana's death. The burial is definitely not in the Melksham registers, but it could be in Trowbridge I suppose. If no-one else finds it before, I'll have a look when I'm next at the record office. I have copies of the Melksham microfiche at home, but not Trowbridge 

I'm a bit puzzled because the first marriage is a bit close to the first of Elias and Joanna's children to be able to fit in a death as well (16 months)..... Also, I checked the first baptism and it's definitely 1810, which is a bit odd since Elias and Joanna are given as the (married) parents and the marriage isn't for another 9 months.....  At least if a burial record appears it should clarify things a bit 

Did you find Elias and Joanna in 1841, or shall I have a look for some appropriate burials for you?

Printing off microfiche is possible, but usually requires a special printer. When I'm next at the record office, I'll look!

My ggg grandfather was Samuel Rogers - one of 2 in Melksham at the time and both married to an Ann. Fortunately they had different occupations so it is (sometimes) possible to sort out whose child was whose  It's never easy, is it?

Best wishes

Angela

[shirclo]

Hi  Angela.
Thanks again for your reply.
You hit the nail on the head - it certainly isn't easy.
I haven't found Elias & Joanna in the 1841, so if you wouldn't mind looking for burials, I would be very grateful. I don't want to be a nuisance.
I've been hoping to find microfiche for Melksham Parish registers, but had no luck. Could I ask where you bought yours? I have a microfiche reader and I'm putting together a collection of fiche. I have ancestors in at least 6 counties and little chance of travelling to the various Record Offices.
I thought you were a regular at the local library or record office, where there may be a reader/printer, so please don't bother about printouts. I am more than happy with what you have done for me already.
Best wishes,   Shirley.

[AngelaR]

Hi Shirley

It's been a busy day, so I haven't been able to check Melksham burials for Elias or Joanna yet. It's on the radar though 

I've been doing the same as you and putting together a collection of fiche for the the counties of particular interest. It can be quite an expensive business though, as the basis of charging seems to vary wildly across the record offices. I got my Melksham ones (and it's a huge parish so definitely expensive...) from the Wiltshire Record Office. They're very helpful - if you email them at wsro[at]wiltshire.gov.uk to ask about fiche for particular parishes, they will send you a list of what fiche are available for the parish. You can then order the ones you want.

If you let me know which entries you'd like printed copies of, I'll see what I can do when I'm next near the appropriate reader!

Best wishes

Angela

[AngelaR]

Hi Shirley

I've (rather belatedly - went down with a bug  ) looked at Melksham burials for Elias and Joanna and haven't found any, which is a bit puzzling. On the other hand, I have found an 1851 census record as follows: -
Ref HO107/1840 Folio 214 Page 16
Seend Street, Seend, Melksham

Elias Burbidge - Head- Mar- 61 - Agricultural Labourer - born Melksham, Wilts
Juliana Burbudge - Wife - Mar - 68 - - born Melksham Wilts
Dennis(? don't think this is right but can't see what else it can be) Burbidge - Son - Unmar - 17 - Servant - born Melksham, Wilts

If this is actually Elias and Joanna, then this would explain why I can't find burials - they would probably be buried in Seend. FreeBMD has a death for Elias Burbage in Sep 1851 Melksham 5a 67 and whoever this is was not buried in Melksham itself , so it could have been Seend.

I've had a look in Seend 1841 census but haven't found them - sorry. Hope this all helps a bit

Regards

Angela

[shirclo]

Hi Angela. Sorry to hear you've been unwell and hope you are fully recovered.

Elias & Juliana seem very promising as BIVRI-2 have an Elias & Joanna having a son Dennis christened in 1833.
I am wondering if Juliana/Joanna is in fact Diana of my first enquiry.

 I made a serious error with the Joanna Tuck marriage. I must have had a "senior moment" and totally misread my info, so that marriage must be disregarded, or re-filed as "may link in somewhere along the line"
My apologies for that.

Thank you very much for your invaluable help once again. You are certainly making a big difference to my researches and pointing me in the right direction.
Very best wishes,   Shirley.