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Re: Delavel, Dalavel, Northumberland
« Reply #9 on: Friday 10 March 17 14:47 GMT (UK) »
I can attest to Seaton Delaval being a coal-mining centre.  In the mid-1950s, a friend's family took me with them to stay in a miner's cottage in SD.  The father (my friend's maternal grandfather) had retired but they could stay in the cottage because the son was also a miner.  Coming from the middle of Lincolnshire, I was fascinated to see him when he came home because he was so dirty; the first time I saw him, I thought he was the first black man I had ever seen!  He would have been a fairly young man, probably in his 30s at the time.  Another fascinating thing about him was, he was an absolutely amazing embroiderer...in fact, my friend's granny sent my mum a tablecloth that he had embroidered.  He is the only man I have ever met who could embroider; I thought miners grew leeks!

And I believe Seaton Delavel Hall is almost identical to Doddington Hall near Lincoln - same architect.
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Re: Delavel, Dalavel, Northumberland
« Reply #10 on: Friday 10 March 17 15:39 GMT (UK) »
lisingreece, Did you ever establish which Delaval your ancestors were from ? It is an afterthought on my part - we people in Blyth area always spoke of SD as 'Seaton Delaval, but New Delaval was always referred to as "Delaval."

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Re: Delavel, Dalavel, Northumberland
« Reply #11 on: Friday 10 March 17 18:27 GMT (UK) »
Alisdair GB and Ruskie and Lydiann, thank you so much for taking the trouble to put all this info down for me and my friend whose ancestors these are.
All this is so interesting.
Thank you so much
Lis
Bailey, Stickells,  Marshall,  Hope, Morris, Wratten, Hope,  Knowler, Lonkhurst,  Gower,  Ratcliffe, Newport,  Boulden,  Stokes,  Beverley, Law, Lushington,  Parham,  Thorpe,  Piddleden,  Swaffer, Wide, Wood,  Austen, Eastes,  Hulke,  Banes, Hadley, Denne, Mullet, Dove, Mackney,all in Kent

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Re: Delavel, Dalavel, Northumberland
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 11 March 17 06:57 GMT (UK) »
Pityackafromblyth, I did think my Lawson family were from S D but now feeling I have led you all astray I see that "my" Delavel is in the parish of Winlaton or Whickham, so not near Blyth.  All very confusing. In the 71 he is from Winlaton. But that aside my friend will be very interested in all the info from the links you all have given me.
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Lis
Bailey, Stickells,  Marshall,  Hope, Morris, Wratten, Hope,  Knowler, Lonkhurst,  Gower,  Ratcliffe, Newport,  Boulden,  Stokes,  Beverley, Law, Lushington,  Parham,  Thorpe,  Piddleden,  Swaffer, Wide, Wood,  Austen, Eastes,  Hulke,  Banes, Hadley, Denne, Mullet, Dove, Mackney,all in Kent


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Re: Delavel, Dalavel, Northumberland
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 11 March 17 07:46 GMT (UK) »
I don't think that there is a Delaval ( which ever spelling ) in the Whickham / Winlaton area. I may well be wrong, but you could check on the Durham forum, as those areas are in "No Man's land" between Tees and Tyne  ;) 

Don't take the census as being accurate. The enumerators often placed peoples' origins as being where they were living at the time, it's best to get as much information as you can and invest in a birth certificate. Confusingly, from people outside the area, Seaton Delaval was in Tynemouth registration district.

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/tynemouth.html

According to freebmd ( sorry mods if I'm not allowed to give names of sites ), the birth of a John Lawson was registered at Tynemouth in OND 1866

Daniel: Scarborough
Malyon: Essex, London
Bell: Northumberland
Gibbs: Northumberland, Co Durham, North Yorks
Appleyard: Bridlington, Scarborough
Barton: Nottingham, Sheffield
Bunn, Sanderson, Gray, Hindmarsh, Tron , Tait and others - wife's family , Durham and Northumberland

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Re: Delavel, Dalavel, Northumberland
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 11 March 17 07:52 GMT (UK) »
thank you so much AlisdairGB, The answer as you say is a birth cert. And this I will get. This is a totally confusing family!!!
thank you for your help
Lis
Bailey, Stickells,  Marshall,  Hope, Morris, Wratten, Hope,  Knowler, Lonkhurst,  Gower,  Ratcliffe, Newport,  Boulden,  Stokes,  Beverley, Law, Lushington,  Parham,  Thorpe,  Piddleden,  Swaffer, Wide, Wood,  Austen, Eastes,  Hulke,  Banes, Hadley, Denne, Mullet, Dove, Mackney,all in Kent

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Re: Delavel, Dalavel, Northumberland
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 12 March 17 09:17 GMT (UK) »
Lis,

John Lawson age is 3 in 1871, 12 in 1881, 22 in 1891, 32 in 1901, 42 in 1911, so looking for a John born 1868/9.
Checking the births of his siblings from the 71 and 81 census on the GRO website, his mothers maiden name was Studholme/Studholm/Studham.

William Lawson married Ann Studholm, 14/8/1848 South Shields.

The John Lawson birth that matches is Dec qtr 1868 Newcastle, mothers maiden name Studholm.

There was a Delaval Estate in Scotswood, Delaval Benwell Colliery was there.

Alan.
Northumberland - Smith, Willis,
Durham - Rogerson, Child
Cumberland - Irving, Hill
North Yorkshire - Layfield,
Ireland - Collins

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Re: Delavel, Dalavel, Northumberland
« Reply #16 on: Monday 13 March 17 10:13 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Alan for taking the time to follow my Lawson family. I have found the Wm Lawson Ann Studholm marriage in 1848. But I cannot find the births of some of the children citing Ann St as the mother. Please can you show me what you did?
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Lis
Bailey, Stickells,  Marshall,  Hope, Morris, Wratten, Hope,  Knowler, Lonkhurst,  Gower,  Ratcliffe, Newport,  Boulden,  Stokes,  Beverley, Law, Lushington,  Parham,  Thorpe,  Piddleden,  Swaffer, Wide, Wood,  Austen, Eastes,  Hulke,  Banes, Hadley, Denne, Mullet, Dove, Mackney,all in Kent

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Re: Delavel, Dalavel, Northumberland
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 15 March 17 20:50 GMT (UK) »
Lis,

On the GRO website you can now search for births, and it tells you the mothers declared maiden name. You can then use that name to search for siblings.

Dialling in name Lawson for the relevant years,  and mothers maiden name Studholm, with phonetic variations.

Thomas Lawson, Sep qtr 1848 South Shields, Mothers maiden name – Studham.
Ann Lawson, Sep qtr 1850 Durham& Lanchester, Mothers maiden name – Studholm.
Robert Lawson, Sep qtr 1852, Gateshead, Mothers maiden name – Studholme.
William Lawson, Dec qtr 1854, Auckland, Mothers maiden name – Studholme.
Dorothy Ann Lawson, Sep qtr 1857, Auckland, Mothers maiden name – Studholm.
Margaret Lawson, Sep qtr 1865, Newcastle, Mothers maiden name – Studholm.
John Lawson, Dec qtr 1868, Newcastle, Mothers maiden name – Studholm.
Elizabeth Lawson, Sep qtr 1870 Gateshead, Mothers maiden name – Studham.
Dorothy Ann Lawson, Sep qtr 1872, Durham, Mothers maiden name - Studholme

Pretty much matches the children in 1871.

its really lucky that Anns maiden name was Studholm as thats fairly rare in Newcastle/Durham. She gives her place of birth consistently as Murton which is just outside of Appleby.

Alan.
Northumberland - Smith, Willis,
Durham - Rogerson, Child
Cumberland - Irving, Hill
North Yorkshire - Layfield,
Ireland - Collins