42 Oyster Street, Portsmouth electoral roll look up 1912/1913

[Dorey]

Going from what Lizdb was indicating.

They could have indeed met in Portsmouth

Sidney was in The Gloucestershire Regiment and was discharged from Cambridge Barracks, Portsmouth on 13th May 1912.

[groom]

According to the 1939 register.  Beatrice Maud Davis (Field) was born on in June 1888.  You guys are great.

Were should I go from here.  Any ideas?

I would get the birth certificate for Beatrice Maud Godwin. If the date of birth on there is the same as the date of birth for Beatrice Maud Davis on the 1939 register, you know it is the same person.

 I presume you have the marriage certificate, does she actually describe herself as a spinster? Unless you can find any divorce record, or a death for her first husband before 1912, I'm afraid it looks as if she made a bigamous marriage and that is why she used the name Field.

[Capetown]

Alfred John GODWIN married Ellen Louisa GATES April 1882 Portsmouth, Hampshire and died  March 1934 (according to Family tree on Ancestry)


Using the new GRO Index for GODWIN -  mother's maiden name GATES

Portsea

1883 : Thomas Alfred
1884 : Frederick Charles
1885 : George Edwin
1886 : James Edward
1888 : Beatrice Maud (Sept Qtr)
1890 : Sidney Ernest - Portsea Island (Dec Qtr)
1892 : Ellen Rosina
1895 : Edith Louisa
1898 : Lilian Violet


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1901 Census, 42 Oyster Street

GODWIN

Alfred - 42 -  born Greenwich London
Ellen - 36 - born Hants, Portsmouth
Thomas - 18 - born Southsea
Beatrice - 12 - born Southsea
Sidney - 10 - born Portsmouth
Ellen - 8 - born Portsmouth
Edith - 6 - born Portsmouth
Lilian - 3 - born Portsmouth
James BACKITT ? Nephew - 23 - born Farnham, Hants

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1891 Census
Portsmouth, Portsea Island
Oyster Street

GODWIN

Alfred - 32 - born Greenwich, London
Ellen - 26 - born Hampshire
Thomas - Son - 8 - born Hampshire
Beatrice - Daughter - 2 - born Hampshire
Sydney - Son - 0 - born Hampshire
Harriet TAYLOR - Visitor - 23 - born Hampshire  ***

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? on the 1911 census, says Beatrice Maud had given birth to 6 children ? two born alive/two living

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On the 1881 census : Harriet TAYLOR is living with her father in Lancashire : born Freshwater IOW - is this the connection with Beatrice moving up to Lancashire after her marriage...


1881 census
Bootle cum Linacre, Lancashire

TAYLOR

Herbert - 46 - born Germany  - General Practitioner
Harriet F TAYLOR - 13  (born Freshwater IOW)
John S TAYLOR - 12
Walter TAYLOR - 6
Marion E TAYLOR - 3
Annie Est. PLYMB - 21
Mary GROVE - 66
Martha MURPHY - 34
Catherine

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Ancestry:

Lancashire Marriage - Forby

12 January 1892

John William LOWE - aged 34, Rancher, Ainsdale
Harriet Fanny TAYLOR - 24 - father: Herbert Taylor (Physican)


1901 census Leicester

LOWE

John Wllliam - 43
Harriett Fanny - 33
Fanny Maud - 8
John Alfred - 5
Thomas Herbert - 3
Dorothy Hope - 1


by 1911 -

Harriet LOWE aged 43 and born Freshwater IOW - is a Widow and a Monthly Nurse, working in Northampton

[rosie99]

Alfred John Goodwin was still at No.42 in Dec 1916 - an item in the Portsmouth Evening News.

Free search of 1939 shows Ellen L Godwin c1864 still resident at the address. 

However as the other thread shows it is Beatrice we are interested in.

[sarah]

I have just merged the 2 topics together.

Regards

Sarah

[Dorey]

To everyone who helped find info Beatrice Maud Field, thank you. I now have her birth certificate and she was born in 17 June 1888.

So my husbands grandmother was Beatrice Maud Godwin born 17 June 1888
Married John Christopher Mumby(Monday) Field in Nov 1905
Had two children with him. Left them in 1912 to run off and marry (bigamously) my husbands grandad (Sidney Davis) in June 1912 using her married name of Beatrice Maud Field in Stroud, Gloucester
Died in Croston, Lancashire in 1955 having borne Sidney six children

LadyHawk in other correspondence you have could have found John CM Fields death in Lille, France between 1936/1940. Can you let me know which archive you used for this. I only gave membership to Ancestry?

Thank you

[Ladyhawk]

in other correspondence you have could have found John CM Fields death in Lille, France between 1936/1940.

Can you let me know which archive you used for this. I only gave membership to Ancestry?

The entry can be found on http://www.findmypast.co.uk  Record Set British Nationals Died Overseas 1818-2005

GRO Consular Death Indices (1849 to 1965) image reads as follows

                                             13.
                       Index to consular Deaths 1936 – 1941                                     FAB - FRA.

                                  Age          Consulate            vol.     page
Field, John C. M.        54              Lille                   33       115

[Capetown]

Family Seach has two entries for John C M Fields buried 24 March 1939 in France

[Ladyhawk]

I don't know if this is the same person

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=56601584&ref=acom

John C M Fields
Death Date:   24 Mar 1939
Cemetery:   Longuenesse Souvenir Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place:   Longuenesse, Departement du Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France