What am I doing wrong?

[Jomot]

The one married to Elsie is with her & the children in 1939 & gives a DoB of 29 Jan 1889, so could be the one born in Prescot, Lancs Q1 1889.

[groom]

I can see children born to Watson/Bowyer in 1915, 1920, 1923 & 1930,

That suggests they were still together - so unless he was with two woman at once, perhaps we can rule that one out, especially in view of Jomat's last post?

[iolaus]

Plus none of the Watson/Bowyer children are born on the South Coast

I suspect there are (at least) two seperate men we are dealing with

[iolaus]

The Hove Bertram (circa 1939) has him married to Anne  and 3 closed records - presumably 3 children as born after 1917 with the 100 year ruling

Going back to my earlier suggestion with Sheila - suggested by the ancestry woman - (mmn Page) born 1940 (and therefore not on this register) I looked up for other Watson/Page births in the area

There is 1930. 1934 and 1937 - which could tie in with the 1939 register

There is also a corresponding Annie Page born at the right time not far from Eastbourne

[libby9]

The Eastbourne Bertram can be found in 1911, search for BERTHAM Watson, born 1893 Eastbourne.

[groom]

The Eastbourne Bertram can be found in 1911, search for BERTHAM Watson, born 1893 Eastbourne.

In the right area to meet his future wife as well! It is looking more as if it is the right one. So, if he had children with Annie Page, even if they weren't married, that means TamlaDawn's grandmother has half siblings who could still possibly be alive.

[Treetotal]

There;s a Sheila Watson born in Brighton 1931 - mothers maiden name Cinnamon

There's a Sheila Watson born in Eastbourne 1940 - mothers maiden name Page

Can't see a Watson marriage to either a Cinnamon or a Page

These people could be still living so be careful about giving the full names.

I spent a lot of time last night playing with name variations  Curiouser and curiouser!!! 

Carol

[iolaus]

Do we know when Edith died?

If she dies shortly before 1956 (when he marries Florence) that could be more suggestion that he is the same one

It may be that the lady who has the tree on ancestry has him as a widow, assuming his first wife is Ann (or yet another unidentified lady) which is why she's sure this is a different Bertram


BTW in support of Bertram giving his stepfather's name one of my relatives did the same thing - he was tiny when his father died.  I also have one who is illegitimate but know who the father was as there is a bastardy bond - on his marriage certificate it has his father's first name with his mothers surname - such a person never existed - whether he was covering up the illigitimacy or if the person recording just said 'what's your fathers first name?' - assuming the surname was the same

[groom]

That's a good point about Edith's' death. He may not have married Florence until after Edith died as they weren't divorced, that certificate would possibly confirm if it is the correct Bertram if it gave his father as Sydney. It may well be worth getting it.