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Re: What am I doing wrong?
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 26 February 17 00:29 GMT (UK) »
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ooh Treetotal - Bertie Cutts-Watson?! That's a new one....will investigate now thanks!

See Carol and my posts, it isn't him.
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« Reply #19 on: Sunday 26 February 17 00:34 GMT (UK) »
I can't find a match in 1939 can you Jan?
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« Reply #20 on: Sunday 26 February 17 00:37 GMT (UK) »
No. The problem is, if he left his wife and child he may also have changed his name so he couldn't be found.

Have you got your grandmother's birth certificate TamlaDawn, does that give any more clues i.e occupation when she was born?
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« Reply #21 on: Sunday 26 February 17 00:49 GMT (UK) »
If he is the Eastbourne one there's no MMN given on the GRO site, this generally indicates an illegitimate birth.  You must consider he may have made up a father's name - it happened, to keep respectability


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« Reply #22 on: Sunday 26 February 17 01:59 GMT (UK) »
I think there's something in these records to consider.

1901, Eastbourne.  RG13; Piece: 883; Folio: 46; Page: 31
James Watson    73, Westham, Sussex
Edith Searle    35, dau, Westham
Ernest Watson    18, son, Westham
Bertram Searle    6, grandson, Eastbourne
Sidney Searle    5, grandson, Eastbourne
May (or Mary) Searle    3, granddaughter, Eastbourne

1891, Eastbourne,  RG12; Piece: 774; Folio: 106; Page: 32
James Watson    63
Edith Watson    25
George Watson    24
Frederick Watson    18
Ernest F Watson    8

Marriages Dec 1895
Edith Watson, also listed Sydney John Searle.

My opinion is that as Bertram was born (1894) before Edith and Sydney married, he was registered Watson, Sydney Searle may not be his biological father.

SEARLE, SIDNEY  ALBERT, MMN  WATSON        
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« Reply #23 on: Sunday 26 February 17 02:08 GMT (UK) »
Why, I don't know, but this site doesn't allow us to post the 1911 census.  Take a look yourself by searching for Sydney Albert Searle, born 1896 Eastbourne.  He's with his father, but not his mother.


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« Reply #24 on: Sunday 26 February 17 02:14 GMT (UK) »
This is Sydney snrs 2nd marriage.
Sep 1910, Sydney J Searle/Susana M Simmonds. Uckfield vol 2b page 283

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« Reply #25 on: Sunday 26 February 17 02:57 GMT (UK) »
I may be wrong but the name Bertram would suggest the surname of a family member possibly on his father's maternal line if he was illegitimate (usually a wee clue)  ;)

I have Bertram in my tree as a surname but would have to investigate where from as (from memory) they married into my line (I think) & I can't remember just now where from but was England.

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Re: What am I doing wrong?
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 26 February 17 09:17 GMT (UK) »
Crikey everyone you have made more headway with findings and/or possible theories in less than 24hrs than I've managed in a couple of months!  I'm very grateful and shall go back to the other lady again, plus order the certs anyway, just for peace of mind.
Just hope I can wrap this up with a bit more clarity whilst nan is still with us! 😊
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