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Re: What am I doing wrong?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 26 February 17 00:02 GMT (UK) »
If his DOB and names are right, the only one born about that time was

Births Sep 1894 
Watson    Bertram James       
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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 26 February 17 00:10 GMT (UK) »
An online tree gives birth matching groom's find plus a death in 1960 in Brighton. He left a Will, probate to Florence Winifred Watson, widow.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 26 February 17 00:10 GMT (UK) »
There is a tree on Ancestry that has that Bertram marrying Edith Field. They also have his death as 1960 Brighton.

Then if you look on the Government website, the National Probate Calendar, that one died 1st August 1960 and left a will. Probate was granted to his widow Florence Winifred Watson. So if it is him he may have committed bigamy unless he divorced his first wife!

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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 26 February 17 00:12 GMT (UK) »
Marriages Jun 1956 

PICKARD    Florence W    WATSON                        
WATSON    Bertram            PICKARD   
Brighton    5h   183
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 26 February 17 00:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi TamlaDawn and welcome to RootsChat....you may want to consider that he went by the name of Bertie Cutts-Watson....later on...or it could be coincidence.
Edit....maybe not...his wife was Ethel.
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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 26 February 17 00:20 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Treetotal on Sunday 26 February 17 00:15 GMT (UK)
Hi TamlaDawn and welcome to RootsChat....you may want to consider that he went by the name of Bertie Cutts-Watson....later on...or it could be coincidence.
Carol

Didn't that one marry an Ethel Broad in 1915? I think also he was Bertie John

NAME:    Bertie John Cutts-watson
BIRTH:    Sep 1894
DEATH:    Dec 1974
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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 26 February 17 00:22 GMT (UK) »
Just edited my post Jan...on the iPad so not very quick or so easy to negotiate  ::)
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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 26 February 17 00:24 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all!

I found the Eastbourne Bertram too...followed him and found the marriage to Pickard (and no, he never divorced Edith tsk tsk!) and his death in 1960...however when I contacted the lady on Ancestry who had created him along with Pickard, she said that I had the wrong Bertram! She said her Bertram's father wasn't called Sydney, so I dropped it.
I think I may have inadvertently linked the 1960 death on Ancestry to the tree I made..I thought I had deleted that to save confusion but seems not, duh!

So I need to go back to this lady then and say look I think we DO share the same Bertram!?   

ooh Treetotal - Bertie Cutts-Watson?! That's a new one....will investigate now thanks!
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« Reply #17 on: Sunday 26 February 17 00:27 GMT (UK) »
I'm not sure about the one who died in Brighton - he seems to have been in Hove in 1939 with another wife! The only way to check would be to get his marriage to Florence and see if he gives his father as Sydney. Or, perhaps better, send for his birth certificate as if his father was Sydney not only would it confirm it was the right one, but would give his mother's name.

Added: Why not go back to the lady who has the tree and ask if she has either certificate so you can eliminate him? That would save you money!
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