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Re: What am I doing wrong?
« Reply #54 on: Monday 06 March 17 17:33 GMT (UK) »
Hear, hear! Agree totally. Most of us have found "kidnapped" ancestors hanging on someone else's tree from time to time - and we just hope that we have never kidnapped anyone else's ancestors by error - i once got a chap mixed up with his cousin, same age, place of birth, wife's name and four childrens' names!!! Eventually realised that he'd be unlikely to have changed jobs for 20 years, then back again, so looked more closely .... next door but three, actually! embarrassing if I'd not checked myself fully.
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Re: What am I doing wrong?
« Reply #55 on: Sunday 26 March 17 21:52 BST (UK) »
Hello folks - been a while since I could get my mits on the laptop!

So I have 3 certificates here...
Bertram Watson aged 66 marrying a 47 year old Florence Pickering in June 1956- has put his father as Sidney, deceased...as he had on Edith Field's marriage cert in 1917.
However he has put his age in 1917 as 24...so that maths isn't adding up! He should be 63 in 1956 not 66? Why would you lie about that?
So am a bit confused here.
He has stated that he was a widower interestingly..

I also have his birth cert. No father named. Mother's name Edith Watson - no other help here.

Lastly I have Sheila Page's birth cert from 1940 and her father's name is not Bertram Watson...so she isn't his daughter.

I still think he's the right Bertram though!?

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Re: What am I doing wrong?
« Reply #56 on: Monday 27 March 17 15:07 BST (UK) »
I wouldn't worry about 3 years here or there on the age of a sexagenarian, you know.

The circumstances of his birth were shrouded in mystery. He probably didn't know for certain.

Maybe he was trying to claim an old age pension and needed to make sure that whatever he told the registrar about his age tallied with what he was telling the pensions people.

There could be any number of reasons.

What is far LESS likely is that somebody totally unconnected should have plucked a father's name out of the air and come up with Sydney.

This is often a useful way to test your conclusions in genealogy. The evidence is the evidence. That is a given, and it won't change if you change your hypothesis. So ask yourself "If my hypothesis as to what happened is wrong ... what alternative hypotheses are available?" Then offer those alternative hypotheses up against the evidence, and ask "If this is what happened ... would the evidence look like this, or would it look different?" If the alternative hypothesis would have produced different-looking evidence, then it can be dismissed, because it didn't: it produced the evidence you've actually got!

(That's not to say that once you have dismissed the alternative hypothesis, your original hypothesis must be right: there might be another alternative hypothesis, which you have not considered, which WOULD have produced evidence looking like the evidence you've actually got ... which is why we always say go back and check everything, and recheck it, every time you get some new evidence ... )
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Re: What am I doing wrong?
« Reply #57 on: Thursday 06 April 17 13:18 BST (UK) »
Thank you jbml  :-)

I hear what you are saying.  I have been back to the lady related to his 3rd (possibly?) wife and she is now more on board with believing, or at least prepared more to delve into, the fact that we share the same Bert.

She is going to contact the children of wife number 2, who are still alive and have families of their own.  So I am on tenterhooks to see if this can be achieved and any information gathered I can give to my nan.
Fingers crossed.
In the meantime I can double check all that I know as you suggest  :-)

Thank you
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Re: What am I doing wrong?
« Reply #58 on: Monday 10 April 17 13:42 BST (UK) »
Fingers crossed for you, Tamla, and hoping that something really positive and useful will come out of this.
All identified names up to and including my great x5 grandparents: Abbot Andrews Baker Blenc(h)ow Brothers Burrows Chambers Clifton Cornwell Escott Fisher Foster Frost Giddins Groom Hardwick Harris Hart Hayho(e) Herman Holcomb(e) Holmes Hurley King-Spooner Martindale Mason Mitchell Murphy Neves Oakey Packman Palmer Peabody Pearce Pettit(t) Piper Pottenger Pound Purkis Rackliff(e) Richardson Scotford Sherman Sinden Snear Southam Spooner Stephenson Varing Weatherley Webb Whitney Wiles Wright