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Shipping - can you name this port?
« on: Sunday 12 February 17 18:40 GMT (UK) »
Lloyds Register of Brit.&For. Shipping for 1843 has an entry for a ship named "Waterville" 198tons built 1835 and now recorded as belonging to the Port of "Gristne".
Entries are often abbreviated or have apostrophies to fit the column space.
This one beats me - can anyone help ?
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Re: Shipping - can you name this port?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 February 17 18:56 GMT (UK) »
I am wondering whether that 'i' is an 'l' and the port is Gorleston in Norfolk.

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Re: Shipping - can you name this port?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 February 17 19:00 GMT (UK) »
Could it be a bad transliteration for Gris Nez?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap_Gris_Nez

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Re: Shipping - can you name this port?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 12 February 17 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Birkbeck on Sunday 12 February 17 18:56 GMT (UK)
I am wondering whether that 'i' is an 'l' and the port is Gorleston in Norfolk.

I would agree.

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Re: Shipping - can you name this port?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 12 February 17 19:34 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Bbx,Kp & Bbk.
I was convinced the third letter was "l" but looking at other items on the page I agree that it is "i" and that Gorleston(e) would fit the bill.
Never heard of it but now I am away to increase my knowledge of the east coast.
Many thanks for all your help.
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Re: Shipping - can you name this port?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 February 17 19:38 GMT (UK) »
Gore's Liverpool General Advertiser, 17 Oct 1844, under a heading "Cargoes landed Liverpool", reports the arrival -

"Waterville (198, of Wigton), J Mills from Buenos Ayres ..."

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Re: Shipping - can you name this port?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 February 17 20:31 GMT (UK) »
Re "Wigton", there's Wigtown, Newton Stewart and immediately south is a "Garlieston".

Else, Gorleston, Great Yarmouth.

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Re: Shipping - can you name this port?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 12 February 17 21:40 GMT (UK) »
HT,
Thank you for that find and the details certainly fit the LRofS entry for 1843.
I had finished my wiki look at Gorston and plumped for Yarmouth as the probable Port.
The Garlieston option seems to fit as the original port was Liverpool and Wigtonshire has a west coast position not that far from Liverpool.
I will rethink and try some searches to see if I can fit the movement of the ship/master into the limited 1843 detail I have.
many thanks,
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Re: Shipping - can you name this port?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 12 February 17 22:09 GMT (UK) »
Just to say that it might help you with boats/ships to find a library with historical Lloyd's Lists and Lloyd's Registers. The Guildhall Library in London is one. They have an extensive Lloyd's section. When I was researching a trawler, I read the Lists for the period and could see it arriving and leaving ports on its journey. I also looked at its dimensions and registration details etc in the Register.

If you can be fairly precise about which ship you need to know about, they may be able to help by phone.
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