Searching for John Docherty Birth!

[ali_wooding]

I think I'm a bit more confused than I was before...sorry, clearly more of a novice than I thought I was...!

So, I have ordered the marriage certificate for my Mary Parker Docherty, because I needed that for my niece's family tree and it will also confirm her parents (I know I won't have their marriage date from it but I can get that later).

Am I now scrapping the idea that the John Docherty who married in 1911 to Elizabeth Parker the confectioner is my John Docherty?  Or is that marriage right and he was born John Dougherty in 1880, but I've got the John and Elizabeth that I thought were his parents wrong?

I also found this headstone that I think belongs to my original John Docherty and Elizabeth Parker:

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=141884248

Sorry!

I have another stumbling block on another branch of the tree, but I'll probably start a new thread on that...

[MonicaL]

Ali, I think you are on the right track for the family of Mary Parker Docherty. Doesn't matter really whether you order her birth or marriage as both will confirm her parents' names. The marriage cert makes sense to also let you confirm her husband's family from his details on that.

So far, from what you have and mentioned here I think you have:

1947 Marriage of Mary Parker Docherty to Robert Gray Skinner in Auchterderran, Fife.
1923 Birth of Mary Parker Docherty in Carnock Fife.
1915 Birth of a John Parker Docherty in Carnock Fife (a brother to Mary? Elizabeth Parker's father's name).
1911 Marriage of John Docherty and Elizabeth Parker in Cowdenbeath Fife in December. John Docherty's parents showing as John Docherty, mason, deceased and mother Elizabeth Marshall.

Before these dates, lots of details here on this post regarding John Docherty's family, including his birth details from Annette.

The marriage cert for Mary Parker Docherty will help you confirm further 

Monica

[MonicaL]

I also found this headstone that I think belongs to my original John Docherty and Elizabeth Parker:

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=141884248

I think you have found her death. There are corresponding details for an Elizabeth Wilson Parker/Docherty, aged 81. Death in Cowdenbeath in 1970.

From the stone you found, the son John we had b. 1915 looks to have died young www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=docherty&GSiman=1&GScid=2471849&GRid=141884246&

You also have the death for John father don't you? From the stone www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=docherty&GSiman=1&GScid=2471849&GRid=141884247&

Couple of other deaths showing on SP for possible siblings to Mary Parker Docherty.

Monica

[ali_wooding]

Thanks everyone, will hang on for certificate and go from there.

On to next thread...

[andycampbell.uk]

Just following up on this thread, John Docherty (born Dougherty in Irish spelling) and Elizabeth Marshal are my g-g-grandparents.

From my investigations, I believe they had at least 7 children
Mary, b. Kirkintilloch
Elizabeth, b. Partick
Jane / Jeanie, b. Partick
John, b. Maryhill <- Your John, know in my family as "Uncle Jock"
James, b. Kingarth <- My g-grandfather
William Marshall, b. Kirkintilloch
Edward, b. Birdston

Elizabeth Marshall had at least 4 more children (Robert, Margaret, David and Daniel) with her first husband, Daniel Grewer or Grier who died young.

I believe the family moved around following John's work as a stonemason.   Both John and Elizabeth were born in Ireland and moved to Scotland as children with the great famine around 1850.

My mother used to spend her summer holidays with your John's children :-)
I also understand your John was very active in the Salvation Army