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Wards of Court
« on: Thursday 09 February 17 15:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Is it possible to identify the name of a Ward of Court if the only information you have is the name and identity of the guardian? (And a photograph of the child with studio information of the reverse).

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Re: Wards of Court
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 February 17 14:13 GMT (UK) »
Does it state a year?
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Re: Wards of Court
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 February 17 15:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Thank you for reading and replying to my post. The photographic studio is Alexander Bassano of Bond Street and Piccadilly which, according to Wikipedia, wasn't at Bond Street until 1877. The guardian was Thomas Clarke (1845-1904) Maltster of Derby. I attach both photographs, though I don't really know if this helps. It would be nice to put a name to person in the  photographs (which was the  original motivation for my research).

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Re: Wards of Court
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 February 17 15:22 GMT (UK) »
Can't help with your query but....what a cute boy & how well turned out he was.. :). He doesn't look too unhappy with his lot.

There are several mentions of Thomas Clarke maltster in the Derby newspapers late 1800s, will look for any entry about guardianship. Also in censuses to see if a ward is living with him.

Did Thomas leave a will?

ADDED: May be a slip of the finger but this site
https://photosleuth.wordpress.com/2010/07/27/the-clarke-bloor-and-disney-families-of-derby/
has these dates for Thomas
Frederica was married to Thomas Clarke (1845-1904), a corn factor and maltster from Derby.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON


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Re: Wards of Court
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 February 17 17:46 GMT (UK) »
I have had another look Thomas Clarke's will and there is no mention of a Ward.

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Re: Wards of Court
« Reply #5 on: Friday 10 February 17 17:58 GMT (UK) »
Can't find anything other than family members with him on the census - nor any mention in the newspapers of a ward.

If they lived in Derby, strange the pictures were taken in London. I sent a message to the owner of the website mentioned, as he/she seemed to have some in depth knowledge of the family, asking if they knew of any guardianship responsibilities.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON