My Newbury/Berkshire family

[Deb Clark Rennie]

Ok so just digesting this .. so there are even more chikdren which makes sense .. we don't know when John Totty And Mary married do we?  Or who Mary was?  Seems they may have married a lot sooner than thought :-)

[candrjm]

I did look to see if I could see a marriage for John & Mary Mayo but didn't see one.

It's possible that they had even more children as there is rather a large gap between 1807 (last bapt found in Newbury) and William's baptism in 1813 in Wantage and again from 1816 in Thatcham until 1823 when Thomas Totty was baptised in Newbury.

[Deb Clark Rennie]

Just had a peek at that 1841 census ... found another member of the North family there too .. John North a sawyer aged 40 so the other night I found Arthur North the publican ...so could be some kind of family to Totty Mayo's wife Amy.

Lots to look at now :-)

But I best get some sleep as we've had a sad day as our faithful dog of 15 years was sick so we took him to vet and news wasn't good so may have to face saying good bye tomorrow.

But your news was a good distraction ... thank you!

[candrjm]

Hi Deb,

A little info for you:

William Thomas Mayo born 1785.

He is recorded in the United Grand Lodge of England Freemasons Membership Registers 1751-1921 on 18/4/1817 as William Mayo, aged 30, Bookseller,  living in Speen Newbury.

He married Eleanor Brown Lee at St Mary's Church Speen Newbury on 25/7/1822

Possible parents for Eleanor Brown Lee:
(Marriage Edward Lee to Sarah Brown on 4/1/1798 at Enbourne Church Newbury)



Baptisms for children in St Nicolas Church Newbury (on all baptisms he is recorded as a Stationer):

30/5/1823 Katherine (parents Thomas & Eleanor Mayo)

29/4/1825 Maurice

12/5/1826 Gilbert

15/2/1828 Margaret

26/2/1830 Dorcas buried 28/4/1830 aged 4 months

24/6/1831 Bernard buried 21/12/1831 aged 7 months

2/1/1833 Philippa buried 8/5/1833 aged 4 months

All of the above record parents as William Thomas & Eleanor Brown Mayo

They also had:

c1834 Cicily born in Newbury

c1837 Hugh born in Malmsbury Wiltshire

1840 Helen born in Malmsbury Wiltshire


In the 1841 census they were living at Barton Street St Mary De Clode Gloucestershire


Death 1845 Eleanor Brown Mayo aged 44 in Gloucestershire

Death 1849 William Thomas Mayo aged 64 in Gloucestershire





These are the children for John & Sarah Mayo (nee Brown)

June Q 1840 George

June Q 1842 Robert buried 15/6/1842 aged 11 days

Mar Q 1845 Charles Robert

June Q 1847 Mary Ann

Sept Q 1851 Alfred

Mar Q 1857 John Morris

Dec Q 1858 Edward Manser buried 8/7/1859 aged 7 months




These are the children of William & Mary Mayo (nee Butson)

June Q 1838 John Totty

Dec Q 1839 Mary Jane

Dec Q 1841 Sarah

June Q 1843 Robert buried 26/8/1844 aged 1

Sept Q 1844 William

Mar Q 1846 Thomas buried as Thomas Totty aged 2 17/5/1848

Sept Q 1847 Amos buried 10/6/1848 aged 9 months

June Q 1851 Thomas buried 12/9/1859 aged 8

June Q 1853 Alice

Sept Q 1856 Francis Butson buried 19/2/1864 aged 7



I looked for a baptism for Martha Gray but she was not in the St Nicolas Church records but I think that this may well be her: (records found on familysearch site)

St Mary's Church Greenham Newbury Berkshire

15/1/1758 Martha daughter of Robert & Patience Gray

other children of this couple:

31/1/1742 Jane

18/9/1743 Hester

18/8/1745 Amy  <<<<

28/8/1745 Ann<<<<< (wonder if one of these dates are wrong as only 10 days between them)

6/6/1747 Mary

8/12/1754 Betty


Marriage: (also at Greenham Church)

1/10/1741 Robert Gray to Patience Long


the reason I think that these are Martha's parents is that there are these burials at St Nicolas Church


9/6/1793 Robert Gray aged 89

9/6/1793 Patience Gray aged 80




Martha (nee Gray) and Thomas Grubb had a daughter Martha baptised 4th Feb 1787 at St Nicolas Church.

I could not find a baptism for Thomas Grubb


Here are the marriage details for Martha Grubb's brother John Grubb

Place; St Nicolas Church
Date: 13th July 1846
Groom: John Grubb full age Bachelor occ: Labourer of Newbury
Bride: Hannah Tegg full age Spinster of Newbury
Groom's father: John Grubb occ: Carpenter
Bride's father: George Tegg occ: Labourer
Witnesses: George Stillman and Eliza Dibley

Children:

June Q 1849 Hannah

Sept Q 1851 Eliza buried 12/3/1853 aged 18 months

Sept Q 1855 George

Sept Q 1857 Henry John

Sept Q 1860 Jane

Mar Q 1863 Walter

June Q 1865 Edwin

Mar Q 1869 Kate

Also, I had a look at the place of birth for Mary? wife of John Totty Mayo born 1777 on the 1851 census while I was at the library today, it's possibly Newark Nottinghamshire as the first part says Not (for Nottinghamshire), although the other word does look very much like Newyork but was probably mistranscribed or misheard.


I think that's about all the infomation I can find on your family in the records held at Newbury Library but if you think of anything else you would like me to take a look for just let me know.



Best wishes
Chris.

[Deb Clark Rennie]

Chris ... you have been so wonderfully generous in your time with my family tree I'm so very thankful for your help I just never would have worked any of this out without your amazing efforts.

I shall make myself a cuppa and digest your findings ...

I also found Joseph Wade on an 1851 cencus in Dublin but seems they only listed heads of thousehold and there's no mention of where he's from just where he was which was Royal Barracks and Military Provest and Garrison Cells.  So Joseph remains elusive :-)

Will let you know how I get on unpacking all of this ...

blessings
Deb

[Deb Clark Rennie]

Hi Chris,
John Morris Mayo 1857 I also came across him the other day ... he's a bit of a mystery.  I know he's the son John Mayo (the whitesmith) as it's listed on his marriage to a Minnie White.  What's strange is he isn't with family on any of the census records ... I started to wonder if he was Sarah's son or of John Snr got into mischief.  But if you've noted his baptisim he must have been Sarah's son ... I just wonder where he was in his early years?

I can see other ancestry trees who don't know who his parents are.

Blessings
Deb

[candrjm]

Hi Deb,

It looks like an.....y have mistranscribed him as Maria Mayo born 1857(probably mistake for Morris/Maurice)  in the 1861 census living with parents and siblings. John and Sarah Mayo didn't have a daughter named Maria.

Also, not sure if you have this but it looks like he was married twice. First marriage in Newbury in 1881 to Fanny Holder. They had a daughter, Ellen Louise in 1885. Fanny died aged 37, in Newbury in 1895.

This is them in the 1891 census:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7B1F-Q3Z

John must have moved to the Camberwell area after Fanny's death and remarried in 1899 to Minnie White.

This looks like Ellen in the 1901 census living with her uncle, recorded as Nellie:


https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSXP-Y8B


Chris

[Deb Clark Rennie]

Ahh ok that makes sense.  Still unpacking all you've found ... finding it really interesting that a branch of the Mayo's end up in Gloucestershire which is where Daisy Wade (Frederick Mayo Wades granddaughter) also ends up when she married Ted Clark.

Also the Freemason connection ... I saw something the other day ... it caught my eye as there was a Wade on the same list but now I can't remember who it was or what year as I mist have discounted it.

Also seeing that name Katherine or Catherine popping up just makes it more and more likely that Thomas Mayo and Katherine Totty from Wiltshire were the ones that started that Totty name in the Mayo family.

It's been an interesting journey meeting this family.

The other mystery I still haven't solved is that of the 1861 census of Mary Grubb née Paradise when she's listed as a visitor to a Thomas Puri (which I think you looked at for me before) what's odd is if I hit the search for that name from Wiltshire it comes up with a Rosanna Purs from Wiltshire married to
 a Henry Grubb! Bit of a coincidence or do the Grubbs have Wiltshire roots too? :-)

So interesting as well to see how far back you've gone for Martha Gray and her family. 

Hopefully I can get a few more of them filled in tomorrow.

Was very sad to see how many babies William Thomas and Eleanor Mayo lost!

I am again very grateful for all you've uncovered!

Blessings
Deb

[candrjm]

Hi Deb,

The marriage between Henry Grubb and Rosannah Purs took place in Swindon Wilts on 15th Sept 1805 and at the time of this marriage Henry was recorded as of Kempsford Gloucestershire and is recorded as, residence Out of Wiltshire so maybe the Grubbs have roots in Gloucestershire.


Re: Thomas Puri/Purs


Your Quotes

"I'm sure Thomas Puri/Prior/Purs is somehow connected to Martha so will keep looking."

"Thank you Chris I've looked again at the 1861 record ... it's really hard to tell if it's Prior and I can't find the written one for 1851 so ancestry must have it listed differently again." 


My Quote

"The 1861 census for Mary Grubb records Thomas Puri as Thomas Prior on familysearch"


I have posted some possible details below for Thomas in the 1861, 1851 and 1841 census. Although in the 1861 census he is recorded as being born in Chetton Wiltshire and in 1851 he is recorded as being born in Chilton Berkshire his age fits and he is at the same address in both 1851 and 1861.

Address: Raymonds New Almshouses Newbury

Head:Thomas Puri ( possibly reads Prior) aged 84, wid, born Chetton Wilts occ: Almsman late Malters labourer

Visitor: Mary Grubb, aged 81, wid, born Newbury Berks Occ; Carpenter's Widow

Visitor: Nancy Parsons, aged 8, occ: Chimney Sweep's daughter



Possibly the same Thomas in the 1851 census:


Address: Raymonds Almshouses Newbury

Head: Thomas Proce (possibly reads Prior) aged 74, wid, born Chilton Berkshire  occ: Almshouse Man

Servant: Lydia Barton aged 66, single, occ: Servant, born Highclere Hampshire


Possibly Thomas  recorded as Thomas Prior, aged 65,  Ag Lab, in the 1841 census living in Chilton
Berkshire



Possible baptism:

https://tinyurl.com/ltm895h


This looks like his death reg:

THOMAS PRIOR       AGED 87      
GRO Reference: 1864  M Quarter in NEWBURY  Volume 02C  Page 184



I can't see any obvious family link for Mary Grubb and Thomas Prior, maybe they were just friends.


It's possible that Thomas Mayo might have remarried after his wife Dinah/Dina died in 1770 as I found this marriage:

St Nicolas Church Newbury
21st April 1771
Thomas Mayo (wid)
Mary May (wid)
Thomas signed his name, Mary made her mark
Witnesses: Joseph Snow and Ann King


Chris