Robert Stevens photographer

[BettyBoops]

Ooo Sue, I didn't know that. No names? So, I wonder who brought him up as Hilda died so young.
And now, also, we have the names (well, almost) of the 3 children to Colin. With a military background for the 2 boys, that may (I daren't say "should") make it easier to trace them. One of the family may even have come out as a 10 pound Pom. I feel a twinge of excitement again. Cheers, Betty

[sparrett]

Ooo Sue, I didn't know that. No names? 

Betty,
I hope I have not misinterpreted your post and made an incorrect conclusion re the cousin relationship.

You do say



"In a letter from the Lady Principal of Martiniere School, she mentions that Grant is a cousin. In the merchant navy. Lorna had been in touch with the Principal mentioning that she "is taking a course ........"

So, I took this to mean LORNA said to the Principal by letter, "Grant is a cousin in the merchant navy" (that is, a cousin of hers- Lorna's)

Is that not what you meant to say?

Sue

[BettyBoops]

Sue, your interpretation is correct.

[BettyBoops]

G'day all. I received an email from Sheila's grandson today, with some information. He came across a record for a Colin Bruce Seale born in India 1926. Later married Phyllis J Osgathorpe (sound familiar), but using the names of Bruce Colin. Stating he was born in 1926. On his death certificate in 2002, the birth date was given as 04 Feb 1926. This does put his age at what I guessed for him to be a Sergeant back in 1948. The grandson raises the question, "Could this be the son of Colin and Lily?"  Looks good eh?
He asked if I had given up on the possibility of Robert Edward (born 1889) being my Dad. With all the excitement of the chase over the past few weeks, I'd forgotten! And I never heard back from the only contact I came across.
As yet, I've not heard back from the researcher in the UK.                   Cheers, Betty

[BettyBoops]

I came across a death for Phyllis J Seale in 1964. Aged 38.   Betty

[sparrett]

G'day all. I received an email from Sheila's grandson today, with some information. He came across a record for a Colin Bruce Seale born in India 1926. Later married Phyllis J Osgathorpe (sound familiar), but using the names of Bruce Colin. Stating he was born in 1926. On his death certificate in 2002, the birth date was given as 04 Feb 1926.

Colin Bruce SEALE has been "looked at" earlier in this thread, and yes, he would seem to be Colin's son. The deaths of Colin Bruce (Known as Bruce) and his wife can be found on https://familysearch.org/
It looks like Colin lived with the couple in 1948, according to your findings above.

More information is probably available about Bruce and Phyllis, but I'm not sure it is of value.

G'day all. I received an email from Sheila's grandson today,  He asked if I had given up on the possibility of Robert Edward (born 1889) being my Dad. With all the excitement of the chase over the past few weeks, I'd forgotten! And I never heard back from the only contact I came across.
                 Cheers, Betty

Just wondering whether Sheila's grandson has been reading this thread?

Replies #20 through to #26 "deal with the Robert Edward theory"

And of course, you do have the DC for Marjorie SEALE.

You have mentioned that your personal genetic profile is Caucasian, which seemed to rule out the connection.

ADDING
However, having said that, I can still see how many of the known facts of your Robert's whereabouts and early life  may kind of fit the timeline and the  circumstances of this mysterious "circus runaway wife "theory. 

Unfortunately, this is not a sound research approach and cannot be seriously considered without more evidence

Sue

 

[BettyBoops]

Just wondering whether Sheila's grandson has been reading this thread?
     Not to the best of my knowledge as I'm sure I told him, though not sure if he's had time or inclination to view it. He is under a bit of pressure work-wise at present and will further the Johnson connection when things settle.
You have mentioned that your personal genetic profile is Caucasian, which seemed to rule out the connection.
As a child I had pale gingery hair which prompted the nickname by the neighbour to call me "Betty Blue".       Cheers, Betty

[cupoflife]

Betty,
Have you check out this line?

Births 1926 Qtr Oct-Nov-Dec https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV3J-MZSM
Name: Stanley T. WHIKE
Event Place: Pontefract, Yorkshire, England
Mother's Maiden Name: Taylor
Volume: 9C Page: 165 Line Number: 37
 
Marriages 1954 Qtr  Jul-Aug-Sep https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVDN-G12Z
Stanley T. WHIKE and  L**** C.  SEALE
Event Place: Pontefract, Yorkshire, England
Volume 2C Page 1344 Line Number 48
 
Births 1961 Jan-Feb-Mar https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV7R-SZXD
Name: Dene WHIKE
Event Place: Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
Mother's Maiden Name: Seale
Volume 2D Page 802 Line Number 19

Death 2012 Dene WHIKE
https://mobile.twitter.com/rjt2012/status/193710060080332802
http://twicsy.com/i/4V8Aob

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/announcements/publicnotices/notice/26531.Section_27_of_the_Trustee_Act_1925____Dene_Whike/

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/L-60291-1684366

(see pg 16) http://www.takeheart.net/news138.pdf
Everlasting love and memory of my beloved husband Stanley Whike and my precious only child Dene Whike. From Mrs L**** Whike

2010 http://www.takeheart.net/donations%20to%20july%2010.htm
In memory of Stanley Whike

http://www.192.com/atoz/people/whike/lorna/ls16/3000213994/

CoL

[BettyBoops]

G'day all, Lo and behold. Out from the cobwebs, the UK Library researcher has surfaced. Below is part of her response. Keep the lid on the champagne bottle.

I checked again but there doesn't seem to be any other information on Colin or Robert Seale. We do have records for a Robert Henry Seale but these are from before the time you specified so I am assuming that this is perhaps the father or relative of Walter Earle, based on the dates. When I search for Colin or Robert I can only find the military records of enlistment that you found. I re-checked the indexes to the wills too, but found nothing I'm afraid.

The only two other options I can suggest at this point is contacting an independent research agent who can perhaps do a more in-depth search on your behalf (I have attached a list of agents that are familiar with our records) or AGRA, the Association of Genealogists and Researchers in Archives: http://www.agra.org.uk/

What can you tell me about the independent researchers?  Thanks all for your patience. Cheers, Betty