Robert Stevens photographer

[cupoflife]

A point of interest...Colin's file notes the language "Urdu" (an Indian language)
From FIBIS http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jrd/
Military records - Indian Army Regiments: Indian Army Reserve of Officers (I.A.R.O.)
Serial Number: 2499   
Date of Rank & Appointment: 10 January 1917   
Surname: SEALE
First Names: Colin Ian   
British Regiment with which trained : Officers Training School, Ambala   
Previous Service : 2 years, Royal Field Artillery Gunner. Educated in India. Engineer, Jhansi *From Army records previous service was 1905-1907 (when Colin bought his discharge) so looks like Colin rejoined as I.A.R.O.
Languages: Urdu   

Also noting that Colin Ian SEALE and George Arnold Frederick HEYNE were both I.A.R.O. (Indian Army Reserve Officers)
George Arnold Frederick HEYNE was born 22 Sep 1880 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGHC-YJY but fudged date on Australian Army records to 22/9/1889
Colin SEALE was born 2/9/1889
Pondering if George Arnold Frederick HEYNE was the "tutor" as he was in reality 9 years older? Or maybe they were mates as he may have fudged his Indian records as well to 1889.
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/31013/page/13509/data.pdf
George Arnold Frederick Heyne. 13th Apr. 1918.
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/29993/page/2769/data.pdf
Colin Ian Seale. Dated 11th January, 1917.

[BettyBoops]

Interesting results there. Last night I too went in search of Mr Heyme to see if he was in the same regiment with no luck. And this is where your knowledge and skills are valued. I'm being a bit wary of reading anything more into the connection other than being army mates. At this point. I'm certainly not going to be shocked by the outcome of this searching as Robert Seale is a different person to my way of thinking. Gosh. This is fun, eh what? Betty

[BettyBoops]

Sparrett - there's still no mail from GRO. Hopefully in the next few days.

[BettyBoops]

Is there anything in particular I can research at our Uni which may help. I'm looking to go in next week. In the meantime, based on your suggestions, I'll see if they have the relevant material. Betty

[sparrett]

Hi Betty,
Have you read the full ww2 file for George HEYNE digitised on the website National Archives Australia?

If so, you will have seen a letter contained there from him. It is about being sent the wrong discharge papers after his ww2 service    NOW looking at the handwriting and signature on that letter, do they match with the document of employment reference for Robert STEVENS which you describe on Pg 22 Reply#191 this thread?

I find it interesting that evidence strongly suggests that Robert and George HEYNE were associates from Army days (so knew one another's true names!) and he was willing to write a reference for Robert in a false surname.  It makes me think George knew the reason behind the "new identity"

Sue

[cupoflife]

What do you make of this? http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jrk/

Title: File Pol 7434/48 - Enquiry concerning the whereabouts of Colin Seale
Collection Area: India Office Records and Private Papers
Reference: IOR/L/PJ/7/13782
Creation Date: Apr 1948-Nov 1948
Extent and Access:
Extent: 1 file

CoL

[sparrett]

What do you make of this? http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jrk/

Title: File Pol 7434/48 - Enquiry concerning the whereabouts of Colin Seale
Collection Area: India Office Records and Private Papers
Reference: IOR/L/PJ/7/13782
Creation Date: Apr 1948-Nov 1948
Extent and Access:
Extent: 1 file

CoL

I would be ordering from GRO (sorry... more money outward!!) the death certificate of the man Colin SEALE

UK deaths.

Deaths Dec 1967
SEALE Colin
Aged    79
At CAMBERWELL
5A/572

There are 3 electoral roll entries in the London area in the name.
1954 SEALE Colin.
159 Tulse Hill Lambeth, Lambeth.

There are 21 others at 159 Tulse Hill.
All are male. None shares the surname SEALE

1955
Same address
A number of others also. One Female. No others named SEALE.

1964
Roupell Crt Norwood Lambeth
No others of the surname.

He is buried at Southwark, but I cannot see details without purchasing credits.
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch
Sue

And also taking any steps to see further information on "the inquiry regarding the whereabouts of Colin SEALE" in 1948.

Sue

[BettyBoops]

Sparret - I'll see if I can access the information and get back to you shortly.
CoL - Nothing ventured. Nothing gained. I've gone and put a request on the London Board. Betty

[BettyBoops]

Colin Seale died in the Dulwich Hospital on 31 Oct 1967.