Robert Stevens photographer

[BettyBoops]

Dear all. I hope your grey cells have had a rest these past couple of days. I've still been trying different ways to search the various members of the family. This afternoon, WA time, I head to the local Genealogy Soc and meet up with the "Indian connection" guru. I'll let you know how we went, hopefully, before your bedtimes. Cheers, Betty

[BettyBoops]

Just re-visiting the marriage of Hilda Grant and the witness was written up as Colin T Seale. Missed the T bit. Another one to search for!!! Betty

[cupoflife]

Just re-visiting the marriage of Hilda Grant and the witness was written up as Colin T Seale. Missed the T bit. Another one to search for!!! Betty

Hi Betty,
Are you sure it is not "Colin I. Seale" as in Colin Ian Seale (T and I can be mistaken)
If possible can you upload witness name.

CoL

[cupoflife]

uploading image sent.
Betty,
Looks like "I" as in "Ian" to me.
Adding: possibly "J" or "T" but since we have a Colin Ian Seale, I think that "I" is more likely.

CoL

[sparrett]

The writing for the  names Kathleen and Colin are in the same hand.
Walter's is different.
I am saying.

Most unlikely initial T
Unlikely J

Most likely I

Might ask JM to have a look as past experience tells me she has a very good eye for these things

It would be useful to see if the same handwriting appears anywhere else on the document in case this particular letter appears again in it.

It may be identifiable by context elsewhere.

Sue

[majm]

Hi,

Ummm....   the capital "S" is NOT formed same as the capital "S" for Walter Earle SEARLE, I am thinking about that capital "I".   At first sighting it seemed to be to be "I" (as in Igloo), but with the "S" that follows it, ummm.....  perhaps it is a poor attempt to 'print' a "J" (as in Juliet).

It doesn't have 'enough' to be a "T" (as in Tango) ....  and the 'ink' seems to be same thickness throughout the stroke, so I am yet to figure out the up stroke or down stroke etc. 

Love the flourish for Walter    but ....

There's THREE witnesses .... rather than the usual two .... so I ponder .... why 3 signatures to witness a marriage .... was one of those witnesses known to be lawfully incompetent or did that nation's marriage laws require three (gender bias etc comes to mind) .... the form seems to have enough space for three signatures...

So I am thinking that my first sighting would be more likely instead of my over speculating,  so I am saying "possibly" Colin I SEALE. 

JM 

[cupoflife]

Hi Betty,
Can you recheck Colins signature and compare if handwriting is upright like Roberts Army record.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jpz/
Seale, Colin; 1905 British Army Service Records; Dehra Dun, India (for image click camera icon)

CoL

[BettyBoops]

G'day, I'm back.
Firstly, I've heard from Sheila's grandson, and he sent through 2 photos of his dad, the second being when he was 70. STRONG resemblance. Same hairline, chin and facial features. The chin even followed through to Sheila. I'd say that's one brick down.
I met with the researcher put on to me by the researcher from Sydney, and she says that Colin and Robert are 2 separate folk as the army descriptions differ slightly. Colin was dark with blue eyes, and Robert was fair with grey eyes and the height was slightly different. As for their ages, that information was fudged by both of them.
A puzzle - I have a copy of a marriage certificate saying Colin (I) Seale married a  Lily Dorothy Jones. Living in Secunderbad. But I want to check this out further as the date on the bottom of the form is 18 August 1960. The 19 being pre-printed. hmm Was it requested and if so, by whom? Do I have a half-sister/brother out there?? A search to go on (for me).
There were no other traces for Robert or Colin, but then we were finding BMD details for other members of the family.  Cheers Betty

[muss]

Hi
    Another straw
    When did your father retire ?  reason
  marriage  to your mother  in 1942 age 46 = born c 1896
  marriage of colin copy of certificate issued 1960  - 65  = c 1895
  maybe needed for pension reasons

Muss