Robert Stevens photographer

[sparrett]

Ah, CoL, I had not quite realised that the actual image was viewable for some people.

So in other words, there would be no point in requesting a image of the SEALE /WILKINS marriage because there is no more to see than the FindMyPast photo already available.
Is that right?

I was suggesting there might be Robert's signature on an image which would at least show the word ROBERT and an S. in handwriting.

Sue

 

[cupoflife]

Hi Sue,
As far as I am aware that's all we can expect to see. Hopefully Betty will let us know exactly what is on the image (as I do not have access) and once Betty sites the 1975 death of Marjorie, we will know if it is a match and will then have to put on our thinking caps and work out how to proceed.

CoL

[sparrett]

I have PMed to Betty some quite contemporary and relevant information about the husband of Marjorie Seale's daughter.
I am happy to PM it to anyone who'd like to  see it.

Sue

[rosball]

Army Record posted on behalf of Betty - Betty will be along shortly 

[BettyBoops]

Re: Robert Stevens photographer
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Hi Betty,
What details are on this marriage image (camera icon)? http://www.rootschat.com/links/01jo4/
Any signatures? Who were the witnesses? There are 2 entries for Marriages at St Patrick's Catholic Church. Both entries look to be written by the same person. And here is where I should be more diligent, because the witnesses were William Henry Wilkins (WH Wilkins), and - as we know - Robert Richardson Seale BUT the signature is R E Seale! So, yes, the priest had a wandering mind when he filled it in. I'm guessing.
NEWS- The local lady whom the Sydney researcher put me in touch with got back to me a few days ago (having dismissed my email, thinking it was sent in error),  and so I put my little problem to her. She managed to find - ta dum - an army record for a Robert Henry Seale. 1905. Putting his age at 19. Which is (possibly) making my Robert 9 years older than originally presumed! But it does place him as being the oldest, which, based on a couple of stories he'd told us, fits. Also, one of the references was referring to Robert H. The only thing is the signature. Still, that can be altered over time, and with maturity. It gives his parents as Walter and Kate (Kathleen). This is spine tingling.
My contact (bless her) has said that one can contact FIBIS, who could help with birth/marriage/death certificates. I'm  tempted to see if they can help with this fellow.
I've asked for assistance to put the army record up. Thanks, Ros.
Until I find his birth certificate, follow up army details (as I'm sure he was in WW1), and if there are any marriage details, I'm remaining sceptical.
I hope this makes for a happier weekend for you dear detectives, who have been so frustrated over these past days.   Cheers, Betty

[rosball]

Signature posted on behalf of Betty

[BettyBoops]

Thanks Ros. This was in 1941 and remained the same till the end.

[cupoflife]

Hi Betty,
If Robert's Army record age is 19 in 1905, he was born 1886. Sheila was born 05 Jul 1886, https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG7X-MB5
Unless they are twins? something does not add up.
Can you please compare the Army Service numbers of Colin and Robert. Dates of enlistment, description etc.

CoL

[BettyBoops]

Thanks CoL. Good spotting. I only have 1st and last pages of Robert records and have emailed the local lady for the full one. Number 37837
Colin's record has duplicate written in red, and the number is 37838
Same enlistment date 26 July 1905
Both enlisted in Allahabad
Robert - "near the town of" Raniket
Colin - Dehra Dun
Robert's age given as 19yrs 1 month.
Colin's age given as 18yrs 1 month
For Colin I do not have the page regarding parents.
Is there anything else you can think of? Ta Betty