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Re: What family info did you have before you started genealogy?
« Reply #63 on: Wednesday 08 February 17 11:01 GMT (UK) »
My mother's cousin Vera, a maiden lady and an only child, left me in her will her family portraits - 2 rather large gilt-framed oil paintings of her grandparents.  She had been rather proud of her Scottish ancestry and I wanted to find out more about this family and how it was that my mother also claimed to have Scottish ancestry. I was able, with some help, to trace Vera's father to a small island off the north coast of Scotland, where his family were boatbuilders.  He, however, wanted to better himself, moved down to Lancashire, found a job in a draper's business (the owner of this was also Scottish) and married the owner's daughter.  It was the owner and his wife who were portrayed in the pictures and were Vera's grandparents.  During the course of my investigations I made contact with another of their descendants, who, if truth to be told, had much more right to the portraits, as, like Vera, she was one of his grandchildren, but she didn't seem to want them and was satisfied with a photo of them.  They were so big that they never fitted in any of our rooms, either.

My mother, of course, was not related to this particular Scotsman, but I did discover that she, too, had a Scottish grandfather, who, like Vera's father and grandfather, had come south to find work.  It was not such a long journey for him, however, as he lived not far from Gretna Green, so was only just Scottish, we used to say.  Nevertheless my mother had a clan badge and skirt in the clan tartan and her sister's son, who went to live in Scotland used to wear the kilt on special occasions (and developed a strong Scottish accent!).

It's family stories like these that can start you off on the quest to find out more, as we can see from many of the earlier posts.  Sometimes, like these, they can turn out to be true, and sometimes they are totally unfounded. 
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FAIREY/FAIRY/FAREY/FEARY, LAWSON, CHURCH, BENSON, HALSTEAD from Easton, Ellington, Eynesbury, Gt Catworth, Huntingdon, Spaldwick, Hunts;  Burnley, Lancs;  New Zealand, Australia & US.

HURST, BOLTON,  BUTTERWORTH, ADAMSON, WILD, MCIVOR from Milnrow, Newhey, Oldham & Rochdale, Lancs., Scotland.

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Re: What family info did you have before you started genealogy?
« Reply #64 on: Wednesday 08 February 17 12:23 GMT (UK) »
Hey! I've "got" Smiths, too - only problem is, they were not. They seem to have without any imagination assumed the surname as an alias for about 40 years! Wonder what - or who - they were on the run from...His wife? Her husband? The Police?......
(I'd been delving into OH's lot to come up with that gem!) You couldn't make it up, could you?
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Re: What family info did you have before you started genealogy?
« Reply #65 on: Wednesday 08 February 17 15:00 GMT (UK) »
Hey! I've "got" Smiths, too - only problem is, they were not. /quote]

Which one of us hasn't, somewhere down the line!! ;D
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ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: What family info did you have before you started genealogy?
« Reply #66 on: Wednesday 08 February 17 15:30 GMT (UK) »
I always knew well over 20 years ago of the Titshall line and they came from Suffolk.

I am please to be part Scottish as well. I think many English people have Irish ancestry but also many English people have Scottish ancestors as well. I read once that in the 1800s London had more Scots than Glasgow at one point.

I have a Smith, James Smith, he was alive in 1841 bu died before the 1851 census and to add insult to insult, lolol, he said he was not born in county of residence in 1841.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain


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Re: What family info did you have before you started genealogy?
« Reply #67 on: Wednesday 08 February 17 15:37 GMT (UK) »
I started with some letters from my gg grandfather, some of his merchant navy discharges and a selection of memorial cards from my g grandparents' generation.

That gave me a good start on that side of the family but pre internet that gave me a fairly limited line. With a young family travelling to county registries was a non starter and everything went on ice until I discovered Find My Past and Ancestry.
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Re: What family info did you have before you started genealogy?
« Reply #68 on: Saturday 11 February 17 05:17 GMT (UK) »
I did have the names of all four great grandparents as I was asking questions of my grandparents from about the age of twelve.

My grandfather told me that his grandmother told him that when she was a little girl she remembered seeing the soldiers coming back from Waterloo. I thought this was the neatest thing ever.

Sadly, I now know it could not have possibly happened as his grandmothers were born in 1830 and 1833. He also told me his father was a ship's chandler in Liverpool. He lied. The family lived in Liverpool for about two years during which time his father may have worked for a chandler.

Despite these setbacks my commitment to researching my family history remained undiminished. However my scepticism is very finely tuned.

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Re: What family info did you have before you started genealogy?
« Reply #69 on: Saturday 11 February 17 15:52 GMT (UK) »
My "Smiths" remark was because so many people assume if they have one or two surnames in common, they are linked! Even with unusual names, it ain't necessarily so, - but when they have simply ASSUMED the surname ... you'd strangle them if you could get your hands on them!
Talk about making research even harder for you!
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Re: What family info did you have before you started genealogy?
« Reply #70 on: Saturday 11 February 17 16:12 GMT (UK) »
I did ask mum what her maternal grandmothers maiden surname was and she did not know but her name was Catherine and she died in about 1930. When I first looked at my gran's birth in the indexes in 1920 I got my answer, her mothers maiden name was Coombs.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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« Reply #71 on: Saturday 11 February 17 23:42 GMT (UK) »
I had been told stories about some of my family so I had a vague idea of the names of my grandparents and 5 of my great grandparents.  I'd been told where my grandfathers were born (correct) and a couple of vague stories which turned out to be kind of true. 

When I started my mum gave me a pile of photographs including the one that is my profile picture and a box with my birth cert, my dad's death cert, my parent's marriage cert, both birth cert and one of my gran's death cert.  So I had confirmation of my grandparents names, indication of dates of marriage and the names of one set of grt grandparents before I went to any archives etc.
Campbell, Dunn, Dickson, Fell, Forest, Norie, Pratt, Somerville, Thompson, Tyler among others