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Re: Cycle Race - anyone know where?
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 13 October 19 08:41 BST (UK) »
But they weren't compulsory, and universally unpopular.

Just look at old photos from the Tour de France, for example.
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Re: Cycle Race - anyone know where?
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 13 October 19 09:18 BST (UK) »
OH reckons late 1960's for England.  He also says that the leather helmets were not compulsory for professionals, so not surprising they weren't seen in old TdeF photographs.  He started road racing in the 1950's and rode the Junior National Championships in 1957.



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Re: Cycle Race - anyone know where?
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 13 October 19 10:54 BST (UK) »
Under the back window of the bus, is there a word starting with an S and ending with a D? Second letter may be an I?

I thought that might be a panel containing the number plate, possible incorporating the rear lights at either end.

OH reckons late 1960's for England.  He also says that the leather helmets were not compulsory for professionals, so not surprising they weren't seen in old TdeF photographs.  He started road racing in the 1950's and rode the Junior National Championships in 1957.

I don't for a minute doubt what he says about cycling, but based on the car, might early to mid 1960s be more likely? As a lad I was interested in cars for nearly all of the 1960s, and I only remember that and similar as a rather outdated design - besides which, how many of them would have lasted till the late 1960s? (OK, it only needs one, etc)

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Re: Cycle Race - anyone know where?
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 13 October 19 13:00 BST (UK) »
Southborne Grove in Bournemouth in street view has similar house and shop fronts but the butcher is in the wrong spot. 

I tried Dewhurst butchers concentrating on white background signs, looked up war memorial plinths etc etc

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Re: Cycle Race - anyone know where?
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 13 October 19 13:29 BST (UK) »
Southborne Grove in Southborne in street view has similar house and shop fronts but the butcher is in the wrong spot. 

I tried Dewhurst butchers concentrating on white background signs, looked up war memorial plinths etc etc

Is that the one in Bournemouth.
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Re: Cycle Race - anyone know where?
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 13 October 19 13:56 BST (UK) »
Southborne Grove in Southborne in street view has similar house and shop fronts but the butcher is in the wrong spot. 

I tried Dewhurst butchers concentrating on white background signs, looked up war memorial plinths etc etc

Is that the one in Bournemouth.
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Son: Bull, Kneebone, Lehmann, Cronin, Fowler, Yates, Biglands, Rix, Carpenter, Pethick, Carrick, Male, London, Jacka, Tilbrook, Scott, Hampshire, Buckley

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Re: Cycle Race - anyone know where?
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 13 October 19 17:11 BST (UK) »
A few random thoughts...

If it was a club event, would it have attracted such large crowds of all ages? This makes me wonder if it was one of the Milk Races (aka Tours of Britain).

From what I could see, these tours had national teams, so if these shirts are partly orange, could this be part of the Dutch contingent? (I haven't seen anything to support this.)

There's a woman to the left of the cyclists who looks as though she might possibly be wearing cycling gear. It wouldn't be Beryl Burton, would it? (see crop below) Not that this would necessarily help with identifying the location.

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Re: Cycle Race - anyone know where?
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 13 October 19 17:37 BST (UK) »
Right hairstyle but I don’t think we have enough info for a positive ID.

Four cyclists wearing identical kit does suggest a ream time trial and their configuration across the road and large crowd suggests the finish line. I’d have thought a big event would have been run on closed roads though, especially at the finish. Such an event doesn’t equate with that much traffic.

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Re: Cycle Race - anyone know where?
« Reply #44 on: Sunday 13 October 19 17:47 BST (UK) »
Apologies for a stupid question, and I don't mean any offence to anyone  You say this was a photograph taken by your late father - so when did he die?  At least that will give us an end-date.

arthurk - not sure that is Beryl.  And I could be wrong, but the orange isn't perhaps the right shade for a Dutch national team.

I'd like to be able to see whether the shorts are woollen or lycra!  My favourite job back in the day was to drive the Commissaire, so that I could follow all those lovely "lycra-clad" bums  ;D  I'll go away now.  :-X  I suspect that they are woollen - horrid things to have to wash  :)



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