Australia/Ellen Elizabeth Lynch

[sremmus]

Ellen was born to John Lynch and Ellen Lenane (Leonard) in Adelaide, South Australia in 1892. In 1913 she had a child and soon after we can find not trace of her. The said child's WWII record's have her as next of kin but the person concerned had no proof of her still being alive. It has been difficult to trace Ellen after giving up her child, can anyone help?

[majm]

Hi there,

Are you saying that Ellen's child was adopted/fostered and that when that person enlisted for WWII that they nominated Ellen as nok but did not have a then current address for her on their paperwork?    The National archives of Australia should have the full service file to confirm the WWII address for nok.   If Ellen's child is still alive they can apply for the file to be digitised, and if they are deceased you can apply, confirming they are no longer living. 

If they are no longer living, perhaps you might consider sharing their name?   

There's a number of regulars on RChat who know their way around South Australia records.   I am NSW centric so I cannot help much further.   If you want to catch their eyes, perhaps you could ask a moderator to move the thread across to the Australia board.

JM

[sremmus]

William Francis Joseph Lynch is Ellen's son. I have his WWII war service records and he has her as next of kin. He lists Hughes Street Mile End, the place which is on his birth certificate as Ellen's address in 1939. We know that she moved back to her parents home about the time that William was fostered which was January or February 1914.  Ellen gave William up to foster care through the Sister's of St Joseph and he was sent to a farm care placement  near Strathalbyn which is south of Adelaide. All trace of her ceases a few years later. Descendants of the Lynch/Lenane family only remember that she went to live somewhere else for a while, come back and then a few years later believed she moved interstate.

[sarah]

Hi sremmus,

We are able to move posts about on RootsChat if members feel that they have posted in the wrong section, I have moved your post here to Australia

Regards

Sarah

[cupoflife]

Can we rule this in/out?
Vic marriage: 1922 #1970 LYNCH, Nellie and GALL Benj Danl

Vic death: 1925 #1876 GALL, Nellie Elizabeth Veronica
Father's name: LYNCH John
Mother's name: Unknown (Unknown)
Place of birth
Place of death: HOTHAM EAST
Age: 32

Notices in SA papers for death in Vic
The Advertiser (Adelaide SA) 10Feb1925 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/43271225
GALL.—On the 17th January, at Melbourne, Helen Elizabeth, beloved wife of Benjamin Gall (nee Nellie Lynch), result of accident.
Chronicle (Adelaide S.A.) 30Jan1926 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/89635692
The Advertiser (Adelaide S.A.) 27Jan1926 http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/89635692
In Memoriam:
GALL (nee Lynch). — In loving memory of our dear sister and daughter Nellie, who passed away January 27. 1925.....
— Inserted by her loving mother, sister Kate, and brother-in-law Stan. Melbourne papers please copy.
GALL (nee Lynch). — In loving memory of our dear sister Nellie, who died Jauuary 27, 1925, at Melbourne.
.....—Inserted by her loving brothers Peter and Jack, and sister Maggie. Melbourne papers please copy.

Fawkner Memorial Park http://www.gmct.com.au/deceased-search.aspx
GALL, Nellie Elizabeth Veronica; Roman Catholic; FA-R/C*H***2350; Burial; date of service 30/01/1925

Vic death: 1958 #11165 GALL, Benjamin Daniel
Father's name: GALL Benjamin William
Mother's maiden name: Bridget Sophia (Oconnell)
Fawkner Memorial Park http://www.gmct.com.au/deceased-search.aspx
Church of England FA-COE*D***296 (shared plot with his mother and brother)

[sparrett]

In support of COL's finds above. These items pull the strings together to form a good likliehood of it being perfectly correct

The birth of a son to John and Elizabeth LYNCH (nee LENANE)

1895   LYNCH John Joseph
Parents John LYNCH & Elizabeth LENANE At Adelaide Reg 563/84A

His sudden death Jan 1949
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/130244653


The funeral leaves the home of his brother in law, T C BRENNAN of 301 Weymouth Street.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/43798515

In memoriam for  John Joseph John LYNCH  states parents  Elizabeth and Jack LYNCH. 1949.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/43798785

This couple named BRENNAN were married 25 years before the notice and live at 301 Waymouth Street 1950
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/45663509

Marriage of Margaret LYNCH to BRENNAN

1925   305/435 BRENNAN Thomas Patrick    
LYNCH Margaret Mary
At Adelaide

GALL (nee Lynch). — In loving memory of our dear sister Nellie, who died Jauuary 27, 1925, at Melbourne.
.....—Inserted by her loving brothers Peter and Jack, and sister Maggie. Melbourne papers please copy.

So , she will be Maggie referred to in the  memoriam notice for Ellen GALL.
 
In 1939 and  1941 Peter John LYNCH lived at 9 Newman Street. A Blacksmith
[Another brother Owen Laurence lived with him.]

He will be the Peter referred to in the death notice for Ellen GALL 
As John Joseph was still living at the time of Ellen GALL’s death, he maybe Jack in the death notice for Ellen GALL.

Sue 

[sparrett]

From the Victorian Inquest index.

GALL, Nellie Vincent ( Veronica.
Year 1925
Ref 162
Cause of death- General Paralysis.
Inquiry date 28/1/1925.

Sue

[majm]

May I just say that CupofLife's and Sue's posts are making good sense.   I have many an Ellen/Helen (as per their birth certs) in my NSW family tree and they were often referred to as Nell and/or as Nellie, including on the birth certs for their children 

I have not found any likely WWII service records with Ellen Lynch as nok and the enlistee as born 1913 in South Australia. 
http://naa.gov.au/collection/search/

JM

[Essie]

Ellen was born to John Lynch and Ellen Lenane (Leonard) ............

As a matter of interest the wife of John Lynch was named as Elizabeth on all bmds, and this was her death in Adelaide.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/41351237

Essie