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Help me find JOHN GARDNER
« on: Friday 27 January 17 23:29 GMT (UK) »
Hello all,   it's a long time since I used a forum, but I hope there is someone out there who can help, I am trying to find info for my wife's family tree,...so here goes

Ivy Gardner 20-01-1914 - 1997....her father was JAMES GARDNER (1970-1943) he married SARAH SHAW (1870 - 1951).....they married 7-9-1890 at St. Peters church , Liverpool....their wedding certificate states James's father was JOHN GARDNER a Baker.............
now that is as much as I can tell you about JOHN GARDNER.....apart from family gossip says his wife was named MARGARET and she was IRISH..........I have tried and tried to find anything without success.......any help would be great....thanks in advance...best regards...George...

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Re: Help me find JOHN GARDNER
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 January 17 00:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

The 1901 shows James born Liverpool but there is no corresponding birth registration on freebmd
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Re: Help me find JOHN GARDNER
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 January 17 01:33 GMT (UK) »
There is a James GARDNIER b 1870 registered Sept qtr 1870 at Liverpool, mother's surname McDONALD? (Liverpool 08b/70)

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Re: Help me find JOHN GARDNER
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 28 January 17 02:50 GMT (UK) »
Who were the witnesses to James and Sarah's marriage? (Thinking of possible siblings?)

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Re: Help me find JOHN GARDNER
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 28 January 17 10:28 GMT (UK) »
Hello
Witness to marriage are John Gardner and Susannah Osbourne.
Lanc opc has fathers occupation barber ( possible typo)
Grooms address 9 Robsart st
Brides address  85 Abbotts st

Got this in 1871. Lodging at the house of Timothy Lamb b1825 ireland are
John Garner b1846 Liverpool. Occupation Baker.
Margaret Garner b1848 Ireland
John Garner 1866 Liverpool
James Garner 1870 Liverpool.
Couldn't find a James Garner born in Liverpool 1869-71 so could be them.
Lee
 Just looked again and says Margaret born England...
 
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Re: Help me find JOHN GARDNER
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 28 January 17 10:34 GMT (UK) »
That's a good find hol.

Just looked up Lancs OnLine and found the marriage too. Says James was a bootmaker. You're right, John's occ as "barber" could be a typo.

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Re: Help me find JOHN GARDNER
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 28 January 17 11:26 GMT (UK) »
There is also this in 1861 Ford St Liverpool  RG09/2659 / 75

George Garner   51     Ireland      hair dresser
Jane Garner       45     Ireland
John Garner       15     Liverpool  app baker
Margaret Garner  10    Ireland
George Garner      8    Ireland
William Mills (lodger) 21 Ireland

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Re: Help me find JOHN GARDNER
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 28 January 17 11:34 GMT (UK) »
1891 census Landseer Rd Everton
Head Arthur Evans shoemaker b1870 Liverpool
Ada Evans 1866 Liverpool
Frederick Evans 1886 Liverpool
Lodger  James Cardrer  b1870 Liverpool. Boot salesman.
Sarah Cardner b1870  Liverpool.
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Re: Help me find JOHN GARDNER
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 January 17 11:39 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the actual marriage certificate I would say that John's occupation is Baker.  The capital B is the same as in James's occupation of Boot Maker and the k is the same as the k in Maker.

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