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Offline arthurk

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Re: " Presented at Church" ?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 25 January 17 16:24 GMT (UK) »
There does appear to be another one. The burial was on 20 Jan 1807 (in Grouville), and the baptism is recorded as being on on 28 Mar 1807. Maybe the earlier one was his grandfather??

I've given this a bit more thought. The fact that there's no other record of the earlier baptisms of the three who were presented in 1818 may mean that the one who died in 1807 was another child whose baptism wasn't recorded.

A travelling pastor in more remote places only visiting a few times in a year and then when family are able to have a Church close by being 'received into that community'.

I'm not sure this would apply to Jersey. There are 12 ancient parishes in an island of about 45 square miles, and St Helier is the main town there. The Clergy Database doesn't have any evidence of a lack of clergy in St Helier at that time.

Incidentally, as well as the three who were received in 1818, I found the baptism of a John George Rose on 16 Jun 1816 to the same parents, also in St Helier. I wonder if at that time it came to light that the others' baptisms hadn't been recorded properly, and they came up with the idea of being "received" in order to get their names in the register and clarify their status as parishioners?

Alternatively, the marriage record (23 Dec 1800, St Helier) shows that Robert Richmond Rose, the father, was in the navy. Could the children have been born and baptised elsewhere while travelling, and then received after they settled down permanently?

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Re: " Presented at Church" ?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 25 January 17 21:59 GMT (UK) »
arthurk Robert RR Rose was Purser in the RN . I have his full naval record and he didn't go to sea again after the ship he was on HMS Pelican nearly sunk after a huge storm off St Helier in August 1800. He married Ann Walters/Waters in December 1800 and as there is no evidence that he had ever been anywhere near Jersey prior to 1800 it must have been a whirlwind courtship!

Trying to sort these Jersey born children out is proving puzzling. It would seem that my family got all their children baptised privately within days of being born. The exception being John George Rose.

Esther Jane Rose was born 24th May 1813 and was baptised privately on the 26th May. In 1818 when the 3 Rose children were Presented at Church we have Jane Mary Rose recorded as being baptised privately on 30th May 1813. No mention of Esther Jane at all!

So am I dealing with twin girls? One of whom , Esther Jane died young? Or could Robert RR and Ann have decided to change their daughters name and had her rechristened? Could you even do that? What am asking is could Esther Jane and Jane Mary be the same baby?

Jerripedia also have the birth of Robert Richmond Rose in 1809 at St Helier to my couple. Still a lot of sorting out to do!