Rheumatic born near ?????

[Beans]

@ Josey, re.: "Off topic I know - but, Beans, do you find a subs to fold3 worthwhile? I have not see this record set before. " I joined the free week long trial and cancelled again as soon as I had this record printed off. I did have a look for other Boot(e)s on their database but didn't find anything of interest so their was no point in me paying out good money.
You can search it free of Charge and if you find anything i recomend to take the free trial to obtain the information . from memory it seems to be only military database, but having said that, they do seem to have a lot of Information that is not available elsewhere.

[josey]

meaning that is as far as I get with the Family history.

So far.....who knows what may turn up in the future. But a birth in the 1720s is getting quite close to the limit of extant records for some places of birth - wherever that is 

Thanks for the info regarding fold3, will try the 7 day free trial once I have collected together all the names of any military in the family [mainly Murrays in the 87th]. You'd never get another chance of a free trial.

[Beans]

@ Josey, you are correct, "so far".
When I think where I am now and where I was 20 years ago, although I haven't got much further back in time, the Information which has become available on those people has been amazing. May it continue in the future.

[Beans]

Hi all,
I have managed to obtain a hopefully better copy in the hope that someone can decypher it.
I am pretty certain that the first letter is an S and not an. Any further help much appreciated, as is the help so far

[venelow]

Hi Beans and Josey

Beans
The writer has a very flowery hand as far as capital letters go. His L and S are quite loopy. He usually give his Is a loopy top (see Inverness).  I think the word starts with an I but the top part has faded a bit. I think it is Inch.

Josey
I found the record on The National Archives site for free with their viewer. The records are not indexed but using the number of the record set and then the date at the top of the page I found it easily.
WO 116/6  image 123 of 230

Venelow
Canada

[Beans]

Hi Venelow and Josey,
@ Josey, Venlow is correct and beat me to informing you. The WO116 complete series can be downloaded free of charge, you just need to register. I downloaded the WO116/6 document and it is of better quality that the copy I had before. However, not all of the WOs have been digitised and you will still need to go to the NA to look at some of them.

@ Venelow, many thanks for this and I agree with the flowery hand. As there are quite a number of scottish birth places on the page, it might well be Inch.
However if I compare the "I" from Inverness to my one, in Inverness the hand seems to start at the top, going to the right and then up before coming down and finishing with a loop. It might even start at the bottom but then it goes up and to the left to complete the loop before going up. I do not think that this is the case in my word.
If you compare the word Sickly just two lines up from Barnes, I believe that the "S" is identical to the starting letter of my word, both starting to go down in a half loop before going up.

However, my Problem with that is I cannot find any town starting with an S which could fit so maybe I am completly wrong. What do you think?

Whatever the word is, I think it must be a town as it doesn't make sense (to me at least) to be near India, near Essex, near Scotland etc. In such a case he would have written In india, Essex, Scotland etc as he has done for other entries.

[josey]

However if I compare the "I" from Inverness to my one, in Inverness the hand seems to start at the top, going to the right and then up before coming down and finishing with a loop. It might even start at the bottom but then it goes up and to the left to complete the loop before going up. I do not think that this is the case in my word.
If you compare the word Sickly just two lines up from Barnes, I believe that the "S" is identical to the starting letter of my word, both starting to go down in a half loop before going up.

Actually I disagree; IMO the 'I' of Inverness AND your word begins at lower right, curls anticlockwise before ascending to an anticlockwise loop then a flourish. The 'S' of 'Sickly' ends after the loop - no flourish.

Venelow - thank you for that information, have downloaded it & am ploughing through hoping to find something else about my Philip Murray 87th reg [rootschat passim as Private Eye says  ]. I would concur Inch if only there wasn't the flourish after the 'h' 

Beans - agree wholeheartedly about the placename being a town.

Josey

[Bookbox]

I also think it probably starts with S. But there are several different forms of capitals used in the document, and at least 2 different hands, so comparison is very difficult.

I don’t think it’s Inch. Putting aside the initial capital, and after looking through the whole document, I see many place-names ending ...ch (e.g. Norwich, Whitchurch), but I don’t see any with a final ch that matches this.

However, my Problem with that is I cannot find any town starting with an S which could fit so maybe I am completly wrong.

There is plenty of 'non-standard' spelling in this document, and we need to bear in mind the place of birth may be a town outside the UK.

[Beans]

Hi Bookbox.
re.: "and at least 2 different Hands" looking at the three sets of initials below this block, I believe that there are actually three sets of hands which, as you rightly say, makes comparison very dificult.

I also agree that there is a lot of non-Standard spelling but even taking that into account, i can't find anything which might fit.

Yes it is a possibility (but I hope not) that Barnes was born outside the UK. the only Thing I know is that he was Born in 1724 or 1728 (depending on which record is to be believed), that he served with the 1st Regiment of Foot Guards (i.e. mostly in London), married in 1751 in the Fleet and his wife  (Faith) came from St Margarets, Westminster. He dies in 1774 in St Martin-in the Fields. He had at least two children both baptised in St Margarets Westminster.
This meant he signed up around 1746 but I have nothing on him before that.
I have done a world blanklet search but have not come up with any other Barnes Boot(e) nor Butt or Boet etc